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hot v.s vintage v.s quarter pound

Discussion in 'Pickups & Electronics [BG]' started by fr0me0, Dec 9, 2005.


  1. fr0me0

    fr0me0

    Dec 7, 2004
    Winnipeg Canada
    I really tried to search for a comparision between the three and i read the FAQ but that seems to deal more with the difference between J and P and MM etc not the varying styles within each type of pickup.

    So anyways I'm buying, or building rather a second bass, already own a fender jazz and want a P bass. I'm getting the pickups from warmoth.

    http://www.warmoth.com/pickups/pickups.cfm?fuseaction=pickups_b_seymour

    two questions what is the difference between the replacment and passive pickups? are the replacement pickups active? you figure they would just say active if they were. I thought most p-basses were passive so I figure the standard replacement would be a passive pick up but they make mention of passive pickups so does that mean the replacement ones are active?

    also what are the main differences between hot vintage and 1/4 pound.

    I kinda get the impression hot is really just standard, vintage is a classic sound and 1/4 pound since it reffers to the size is more of a 'beefier' sound?

    I play a wide varriety of stuff and currently am thinking vintage unless maybe hot is really something other than standard or 1/4 has some interesting attributes i don't know about

    thanks

    Fraser
     
  2. fr0me0

    fr0me0

    Dec 7, 2004
    Winnipeg Canada
    nevermind looks like it hasa good description on the bestbssgear website. Going to go with hot cause I want the full low end
     
  3. I've had the Hot for P on one bass, and the Quarter Pounder on another one. No direct apples to apples comparison, sorry.

    I sold the Hot for P because it was much too middy in combination with TI Flats. In restrospect, it was probably the TI flats causing most of this.

    I replaced the HFP with a DiMarzio Will Power Middle, which is on the bass today. I now have a decent recording workstation, and have started making comparison records.

    Link to Bass Tone Recordings
     
  4. pickles

    pickles Supporting Member

    Mar 23, 2000
    Ventura, CA
    BP magazine did this shootout a while back, and based on their reviews I chose the "Hot" to replace a Yamaha pickup. Its a very good pickup, with a balanced response and strong lows. It really brought that bass to life.
     
  5. jwymore

    jwymore

    Jul 26, 2001
    Portland, OR
    Correct assumption ... The "Hot" is higher output with boosted low end. Great P-Bass sound IMHO. I use them on all my P+J basses.

    Hopefully I'm not going out of bounds here with a shameless plug, but if you want to save a few bucks on pickups please compare our prices and shipping to Warmoth.
     
  6. I can vouch for John Wymore... I bought my Hot for P and Vintage P from him. Price is right, service is excellent.
     
  7. BigMac5

    BigMac5

    Nov 26, 2005
    San Diego, CA
    So, which one has the higher output the SPB-2 hot for p-bass or the SPB-3 quarter-pound?
     
  8. jwymore

    jwymore

    Jul 26, 2001
    Portland, OR
    The SPB-3 is a little higher output of the two ...
     
  9. rumblethump

    rumblethump Supporting Member

    Mar 25, 2000
    Pioneer CA. 95666
    I agree with pickles, I put an SPB 2 in my Yamaha BB200 and have been VERY satisfied. At the Basslines site the specs for the SPB 2 show the pu is 22.40k ohms, OMG, thats approaching mudbucker status. The original Yamaha reads 7.5.
     
  10. My DiMarzio DP146 has higher output than the SPB-3, and the MFD pickup in my G&L L1500 blows both away as to output. The MFD in passive mode is FAR higher output than any of the Duncans or Dimarzios.

    I'd concentrate a lot less on output, and more on what type of sound you want. All bass preamps and heads will work just fine with vintage (read: low output) pickups.

    It's all about the sound.
     
  11. huskies90

    huskies90

    May 17, 2004
    I agree and disagree. The tone is most important. I like the tone of lace pickups in my pbass but it is so low output that even though cranking my rmx1450 makes it loud enough, it still sounds thin. What about the "vintage" how does it compare to the 1/4 pounder?
     
  12. Nedmundo

    Nedmundo Supporting Member

    Jan 7, 2005
    Philadelphia
    Like some of the others, I have the SPB-2 Hot for P-bass (MIA P with maple board), and I've been very pleased. Pickles is right about the balanced response; the D and G strings come through with solid punch, which makes this bass very useful in my current band.

    Tone wise, think of it as a thicker, punchier version of vintage tone. This makes sense, because it's just an overwound vintage pickup, which means the low mids are boosted and the highs are rolled back a bit. It doesn't "ring" quite as much as a vintage pickup. It has high output and is good for hard rock, but still has a warm, vintage vibe IMO.

    I haven't played the Quarter Pounder much, but I think it's great. Instead of a midrange emphasis like a vintage pickup, it's more full range, with a fat but clear low end, and cutting highs on tap if you want. Powerful, solid tone. I'd love to have a P/J bass with one, so I'm looking forward to trying the Frank Bello Signature.
     
  13. 62bass

    62bass

    Apr 3, 2005
    I like the Quarter Pounder the best of the 3 and over most other pickups of the P type. Very full sound, fairly hot output and works well for a variety of musical styles.
     
  14. Ian Perge

    Ian Perge Supporting Member

    May 11, 2001
    Evansville, Indiana
    I had a quality P/J bass with Quarter Pounders installed, and wasn't pleased with the tone for exactly your points - for my taste they were voiced with too much lows and highs, and not nearly enough low-mids. What low-mids there was were very "middy" - i.e. quite one dimensional and little nuance. Even though I was using this bass for "pickstyle" and would think QP's would work for it, there just was too much.

    I realize it's comparing Granny Smith Apples to Golden Delicious Apples, but I just installed a pair of SJB-2 hots for my MIM Jazz and am totally happy with the sound. As posted by others, much more of a "balanced" sound with a touch of boost in the low-mids. In terms of output, they have just a touch less than the SJB-3s QP (which may seem more due to the boosted low/high end).

    ...and absolutely go through John Wymore. Classy guy, great service. :)