How come 410's have more bottom end than 115 or 118?

Well, the 18 might have been a good cab, that's why it wasn't floppy.

The 410 might have had a lower freq. response, but it also probably has a much "tighter" bottom end that cuts so that's what you were hearing.

Hope I was helpful, MP

 

It depends a lot on how the cabinet is tuned. Even Eden's 410XLT has a lower reach than their 115s. Some say it's because of the fact that a 410 has about twice the speaker surface area of a 115. Others say it's a lie. I think they're all liars, and nobody really knows. Like Phogchris says, just go with your ears. Hear me now and believe me later.

 

Porting plays a key role too in frequencie response as well.

 

There has been a lot of discussion on this.
All said above is true. There is a lot going alsne thing about 18s and 15s, especially folded horn design, is that the low frequencies that they produce so well, are not that appearent in on stage. They develope out on the dance floor and the back of the room. The 4-10 cabinets produce better "near field" low end, and seem to stay pretty even throughout the room.
I do, however, have a 15 in a scoop cab that sounds great up close. It is a Musicman wth a 15 BW in it.

 

Because the 15's and 18's are put into cabinets that are too small for them to develop maximum low end.

 

I Have a Crate with 2 15's in it up close it sounds great but at a distance it doesnt sound as good

I just wanted to tell you

 

Thanks for the input.

 

Surface area has nothing to do with it, I assure you.

 

i have to agree with ROCKBOBMEL on the acoustic 301. i've got an acoustic 301 powered with an acoustic 370 and all the literature i've read on it says that due to the folded horn design of the cabinet it takes at least 25-30 feet for the fundamentals to fully develop. i have yet to try this rig in an outdoor setting or even a large room, but i bet it would really rock. check out the reviews on harmony-central.

http://www.harmony-central.com/Guitar/Data/Acoustic/370-01.html


steve

 

It's because of a phenomenon called sound coupling. When you place 4 identical 10 inch drivers in a box and feed them an identical audio signal they respond like a single 40 inch speaker and a single 15 or 18 is no match for a 40 inch speaker.

 

I don't think so, Mudbass!
- Mike

 

LMBO

 

I'm not sure I understand your question about surface area. I hope this will answer the placement part.
Like MikeyD stated in another thread. If you hang any speaker enclosure from the ceiling into the middle of the room, you get a stated amount of bass. Move it to the floor in the middle, and you double the bass response. Move the speaker to a wall in the middle, and you double that. Now move it to a corner on the floor, and you double it again.
I read this once in a McIntosh catalog, and it had a good illustration on the doubling effect.

 

Sorry I am not concerned with all the technical specifications...


blargh!!!

 

Yes - it's often inherent in the cabinet/speaker configuration (design of the cabinet and shape of an array of cabinets). As Bob said, placement relative to room boundaries also is an important factor. Regarding "throw" of bass, see the thread I started about a year ago at http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=9774.
- Mike

 

No one has even began to talk technical. You asked- you got.
You no like?- You no ask.