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Discussion in 'Miscellaneous [BG]' started by IamGroot, Oct 26, 2021.
Good - Tom Petty, Huey Lewis
Bad - Billy Joel, Elton John
And you base this on ...?
Usually, a bowl of water, and a little mat over in the corner; treats if they’re real good.
Elton John makes them wear funny costumes. Billy Joel plays "Piano Man" over and over. It's inhumane, really.
Tom Petty, Huey Lewis.... Treated the band well and they stuck around a long time.
Elton John fired his band after Yellow Brick Road. Ingratitude
Billy Joel....plays Madison Square Garden for $$$, pays band a pittance
No one at a Billy Joel concert is there to see the band…
Not that I know from experience but I imagine these days its like this:
"Thanks for playing with us on this tour. Here's your pay. You did well and we will keep you in mind for next time".
I would guess bands that are named after the artist you'd be just a hired musician. However, bands without a person's name you'd be part of the Band.
Example, The Rolling stones, ZZ Top, Moroon 5 they stick with the same members and the bass players are equal and treated accordingly. But it's a you pick'em with bands acts like Stng, Billy Joel, taylor swift, etc.
Of course there are exceptions, Bruce Springsteen, and Bryan Adams come to mind who seem to keep the same members.
If you want to know the real story watch the Netflix rockumentory Hired Guns
It is told by the hired musicians of top teared acts
It opened my eyes
Why do we tell people in band management to do what they want if they are BL, yet some complain when a pro does the same?
Hmm. I don’t see it listed.
Hired Gun streaming: where to watch movie online?
Hired Gun ins a great movie, especially Liberty DeVitto's story about getting fired by Billy Joel in the 2000s. Hired Guns don't make a ton of money - even Jason Newsted tells the story of getting $500 a show during the Metallica tour before AJFA right after Cliff died.
Hmm, your premise seems like generalizing. Where do you get that this was bad treatment?
I loved Dee Murray and the rest of Elton's band. But after 6-7 years and 7-8 albums ( depending on how you count), isn't it possible that it was just time for a change? Of course, he was kinda being a jerk at that point. Maybe a little of both and not solely him just being ungrateful. Again, generalizing
If you are hired is there not a scale? If my memory serves me the big players get 2x, 3x scale, etc. Does it not all boil down to whether you are a member or just paid for services? Big difference I would think just like having your name on the song.
I know Billy Joel's bass player committed suicide after Joel fired him after years of service. Joel himself got robbed by his manager, or accountant - I can't recall - and then treated his band like poopie afterward.
Try Hulu or do an internet search
From 2016 IMBD Hired Gun
And then there were decent people like Duke Ellington who paid his band members top dollar, wrote songs to highlight his players strengths, and - when times were tough, never furloughed anybody or cut their wages, but paid the band out of his own pocket. DUke never fired anybody unless there were serious issues.....like Mingus (who was just filling in temporarily).
Bono makes Adam Clayton work the merch table after the shows. I’m told.
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