How Do You Arrange your Pedals?

Discussion in 'Effects [BG]' started by HeyyyyyJoe, Sep 10, 2010.


  1. HeyyyyyJoe

    HeyyyyyJoe Yahtzeeee Supporting Member

    Nov 13, 2007
    Brooklyn, NY
    So instead of making a thread asking the talkbass community how I should arrange my pedals, I figure I'd ask how do you guys arrange your pedals and why? Is it to achieve a specific sound, to avoid tone suck, etc. Feel free to post pics too of your board.

    I'm trying to figure out where I should put my new EBS octave pedal, any suggestions on how to arrange my chain is welcomed! Currently my setup is:

    Pitch Black Tuner
    EBS Multicomp
    Xotic BB preamp
    Tech 21 VT Bass
    EBS Octabass
    MXR M82 Envelope Filter
    Ibanez Flanger

    VT bass and multicomp are always on.

    What's yours chain?
     
  2. In the interest of tracking, id stick the octave as close as possible to the start of your chain.

    My chain though:

    Digitech Whammy IV
    MXR Bass Octave
    Boss FT-2 Dynamic Filter
    EHX Nano Small Stone phaser
    EHX Bass Big Muff fuzz
    Boss ODB-3 Bass Overdrive
    Hardwire CR-7 Chorus
    Boss BF-2 Flanger
    Hardwire RV-7 Reverb
    Boss DD-7 Delay
    Aphex Bass Xciter

    All of these run straight into the input of my Hartke Hydrive 2x10 combo with the overdrive setting mixed slightly in, and the compressor set to 7.

    Edit: You might want to check out the "Post Your Pedalboard" threads for an idea of what other people do.
     
  3. BlackIrish

    BlackIrish

    Aug 29, 2010
    Hi,
    BB to push your signal thru your chain/ drives seem to always work best first in line
    Octobass
    MXR
    Ibanez mid chain buffer
    tuner
    comp close to last as possible, you want full sound thru your fx and compress after
    VT last since its a di/preamp/speaker sim + buffer to push to the amp

    the tuner you can really move to what fits on your board but I would rec starting and ending with a buffer. some people like to run fx after the VT but i think it degrades the VT signal quality of the pedal. it is a amp pedal not a real amp and the only one with a speaker sim. unless your running a wet rig also ( do bass players do that) would you mic your cab and put a fx pedal between the mic and the pa? move around the Oct MXR and Ibanez to see what sounds best different brands sound better in different places esp around buffers. but on the fx alone the oct is going to change the freq of your signal the filter will handel that well and should make your flanger sound clearer. fwiw this is just the opinion of a long time pedal head. later
     
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  4. My chain (and the reason why):

    Bass

    Devi Bass Fuzz (this goes first because it hates buffers, and wants to see my basses pickups directly)

    Boss LS-2
    in LS-2 loop:
    Digitech XP-100 -> Blackout Musket -> Wilson Freaker Wah (this all goes here because I use them together a lot, and I need the whammy near the beginning for tracking)

    Pigtronix Philosopher's Tone (because compression helps the next two pedals' tracking)

    Boss OC-2
    Behringer BSY-600

    Tech 21 Leeds (my other dirt pedal, before any delay or modulation)

    Boss DD-20 (I like my delay before modulation)

    Morley Deluxe Phaser
    DOD FX-72 flanger
    Behringer CC-300 chorus

    Amp
     
  5. PJMiDi

    PJMiDi

    Feb 27, 2009
    Columbus, OH
    I've been trying a lot of things out lately but at the moment it goes

    Bass

    Tuner

    Sansamp BDDI (pre amp EQ)

    Amp

    Post amp EQ

    Tubescreamer

    Boss OC-2

    EHX Electric Mistress

    Dunlop Wah

    Boss DD-3

    back to amp
     
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  6. t3ch

    t3ch

    Nov 17, 2007
    DC
    On a pedalboard.
     
  7. Bass
    Korg Pitchblack
    Whatever distortion I have, I think it's a digitech
    Dunlop Crybaby
    Digitech Chorus
    Tech21 Sansamp
    Digitech reverb
    Amp
     
  8. BlackIrish

    BlackIrish

    Aug 29, 2010
    i agree w/ bigchiefbc if you have a fuzz try it first before buffers, drives, distortions and tuners, they rarely sound as good as possible with buffers or other pedals in front.
     
  9. sillyfabe

    sillyfabe keeping the low-end silly since '06

    Mar 13, 2009
    San Bernardino,CA
    Fender Jazz Geddy Lee with Rotosound Swing Bass 66

    Boss SYB-05 Bass Synth
    EHX Bass Micro Synth XO
    Boss OC-2 Octave

    Boss LS-2 Line Selector

    A:
    Zvex Mastotron
    Way Huge Swollen Pickle
    Baddy One Shoe Firecracker Fuzz
    Fender Sub-Lime Bass Fuzz

    B:
    Boss PH-2 Super Phaser
    Boss BF-2 Flanger
    Boss TU-2 Chromatic Tuner

    Clean:
    EHX Enigma:QBALLS Envelope Filter
    Boss LM-2B Bass Limiter
    Boss PS-3 Digital Pitch Shifter/Delay
    VFE Echo Ohce : Analog Delay/Compressor/Slow Gear Clone
    Roland RE-20 Space Echo
     
  10. I run my board in 3 sections:
    input : MXR NG Line Driver DI> BBE Opto Stomp|> Boss Ge7B
    Loop Boss PSM5: {top row}EHX Micro Qtron|> Boss OC2|> Boss SD1|> Hjart Muller Lo:Fat|> Zeibek Cross Drive|>
    {bottom row} Boss ODB3|> Ehx Bass Balls NYC|>Akai UniBass
    Post Loop: Zoom B2.1u> ElectroniX Submarine

    Ge7B to match levels and tones between basses, everything is set for my main squeeze but the other basses need help.
    Using the PSM5 cuz it's what I got may get some other looper someday. The loop is so I can set up combinations and just have 1 switch to hit.
    With my new amp, GKMB500, I am just using the Zoom for a couple of pitch shifter sounds, specific sounds I have created plus chorus, flange, delay and reverb. Submarine is there for the tasty things it does to my tone.
     
  11. I was plugging my stuff in in all kinds of arrangements for awhile, trying to figure out what in the heck to do.

    Then my effect happy friend told me a basic arrangement maxim that has improved my tone quite a bit:

    1) Tone control/envelope fun (tuner > Vox Snakecharmer > Nano Bassballs)

    2) Distortion (guv'nor clone > ODB-3 > Bass Big Muff PI)

    3) Pitch shifting/delay effects (PS-5 > DD-20)

    4) Signal boost (FZ-2 on gain mode)

    Keeping the basic order concept here seems to work well. Of course, experimentation is the best way to get to know your board inside and out, so go to town!

    Oh right, the why of it all...

    Compression and envelope filters first sends a clearer signal to my distortion. Also, many envelope filters are triggered by finger dynamics. Putting them after a distortion pedal destroys most of that, thus usually leaves them fully activated.

    A cleaner, clearer signal sent to my happy distortion section leads me to the pitch-shifting / delay section. Distortion doesn't seem to make much difference to the ps-5 (especially when I'm jumping up 2 octaves), so putting it there made sense. Having the delay after that feeds the DD-20 a totally effected signal. Also, playing many notes through distortion at the same time sometimes makes a horrible sound. Putting a delay before your distortion section is basically playing a bunch of notes at the same time but with odd harmonies. My distortion pedals hate that. They hit me when I do that, so I put the DD-20 after them to dodge beatings.

    I put the boost pedal (yeah, I need a real one:p) at the end of the chain for soloing and what-not so that I can boost everything. I found that putting the boost toward the beginning of the chain over-distorted my distortion and basically pissed off the rest of my pedals. Putting it at the end simply gave me a signal boost (which is what it's for really, right?).

    Reasoning had! Now I've got to go post a picture of my board in the most recent "Post your board" thread... :D
     
  12. MrGotBass

    MrGotBass

    Jul 28, 2009
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  13. pit7

    pit7

    Jul 30, 2010
    :eek:

    1. Fender Precision Bass

    2. EBS Multicomp

    3. Amp


    Sometimes a Jazz Bass...sometimes a SansAmp...sometimes a few beer.

    That's it...that's the whole f****** thing.
     
  14. t3ch

    t3ch

    Nov 17, 2007
    DC
    I lol'd.
     
  15. My chain goes,
    Tuner, Flanger, Muff, Octave, Synth, Tremolo, Echo

    i run the flanger first purely for tone manipulation. ive found if i run the flanger into the distortion and play a harmonic i can make the harmonic quaver fairly violently.

    but muck around with it and see what sounds best to your ears.
     
  16. Currently have TU-2, LMB-3, VTD and then in loop of that I have MBSS, CEB-3, loop return and then into the amp.

    I previously had TU-2, LMB-3, BDDI Programmable, LS-2 then loop A was BSW, CEB-3, return, loop B was just a DD-3 by itself, using the A+B mix setting on the LS-2, then into the amp.

    I like the tuner first (picks up the bass the best, and I notice small discrepencies with pitch pretty easily) then LMB-3 next to tidy up the dynamics of my playing a little, then the VTD as it's the one pedal I use all the time (the LMB-3 is as well but it's set-and-forget). I then put the MBSS and CEB-3 into the loop so I can change between an overdriven or clean tone straight into the effects without tap dancing on my board. I have yet to get everything sounding the way I want as I haven't even heard what it sounds like with the loop or had more time to tweak the MBSS to something I really like, but that's the joys of working 2 weeks without a day off between two jobs, have one more week to go till my next day off...
     
  17. Ric5

    Ric5 Supporting Member

    Jan 29, 2008
    Colorado
    I disclose nothing
  18. RichSnyder

    RichSnyder Gold Supporting Member Supporting Member

    Jun 19, 2003
    Turbo Tuner
    EBS MultiComp
    EBS OctoBass
    Maxon AF9
    pedal named after a boat that goes underwater
    (Space reserved for my Gnomeratron)
    BOSS GEB-7
    EBS Chorus
    Line 6 M9

    I'm working on scenes for the M9.
     
  19. Vic Winters

    Vic Winters Supporting Member

    Apr 20, 2006
    Western NY
    Pitch Black - Mute/Tune
    Bass Big Muff - True bypass when off, has clean blend when on. No need to be in a loop.
    LS-2 (Send) - For bypass/blending.
    Bass Synth Wah - Clean octave tracking.
    M9 - Delays after synth, dirt before wah.
    105Q
    LS-2 (Return)
    VT Bass - Amp sim/grit before DI, can be used with or without other effects.
    M-80 - To send it all to the FOH.
     
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