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How rare was the Candy Apple Red Fender P

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by Jellydonut, Jul 30, 2019.


  1. Jellydonut

    Jellydonut Banned Supporting Member

    Jul 30, 2019
    Hi Everyone!

    My first post here
    Long time reader.

    Trying to find Fender color charts from 1971-1973ish and I was wondering how much more was it to order CAR on a bass back then?
    Was it a rare color? I’m assuming so, but does Fender ever release how many sold those years?

    Weird question, I know, but I appreciate any feedback

    -John
     
  2. two fingers

    two fingers Opinionated blowhard. But not mad about it. Gold Supporting Member

    Feb 7, 2005
    Eastern NC USA
    I got nutn for you question. But someone will be along soon to help.

    Adorable kid!

    Welcome to TalkBass!
     
  3. Jellydonut

    Jellydonut Banned Supporting Member

    Jul 30, 2019
    Thank you! She’s a great kid! Loves to play my bass guitars and sing. Haha.
     
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  4. two fingers

    two fingers Opinionated blowhard. But not mad about it. Gold Supporting Member

    Feb 7, 2005
    Eastern NC USA
    My girls are 7 and 10. There's nothing like daddy's little girl.

    OK, derail over.

    One of you vintage Fender experts help this guy out.
     
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  5. Jellydonut

    Jellydonut Banned Supporting Member

    Jul 30, 2019
    My daughter is 7 too....
    Good luck with the kids!
    And thank you for greeting me!
     
  6. TDR1138

    TDR1138

    Apr 11, 2007
    Section 204
    My girls just turned 9 and 12.

    And I love CAR Precisions.

    But I got nothing of value to add.

    :smug:
     
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  7. The Bass Clef

    The Bass Clef is modulating in time. Gold Supporting Member

    Nov 17, 2010
    Southern California
    CAR was available up through 1973 as a custom order, with a 5% up charge back then. Not many were made in that (or any other custom color) in the ‘70s, but Fender did not keep any records of exactly how many of each model were even sold, much less the colors of each model. It anyone’s guess, but to give you an idea of the rarity of CAR for the early 70s... I’d say for every 100 sunburst early ‘70s Ps I see come up on the market, I see about 20 natural ones, probably 20 white ones, 10 black ones, and maybe 2 CARs (and maybe 1 lake placid blue).

    P.S. I have a 2 year old daughter who is my entire world. :)
     
  8. Samatza

    Samatza

    Apr 15, 2019
    Candy Apple Red, one of my fave colours but I don't own one red bass... yet. I haven't seen too many of these over the years so they must be fairly rare. I'm going to redo my J Bass in CAR.
     
  9. Jellydonut

    Jellydonut Banned Supporting Member

    Jul 30, 2019
    I just made a purchase and I’m so thrilled.

    I always loved CAR, but couldn’t find one for years that wasn’t beat to heck. I figured the color was pretty rare, as I just do not see them around that often
     

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  10. Energy

    Energy

    Jun 20, 2006
    Germany
    Wow, is that the actual bass you purchased? Concragts! Looks unbelievably clean!

    Thanks @The Bass Clef ! Being a vintage Fender afficionado myself, I learn so much from you.
     
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  11. Ghastly

    Ghastly

    Oct 18, 2015
    Mill Valley
    Oh... nice. And a maple neck, too! :drool:
     
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  12. rockdoc11

    rockdoc11

    Sep 2, 2000
    Back in the 1990s a 1959 P bass followed me home. It had been stripped to natural.

    I'd always wanted a Candy Apple Red Precision, so that's what this became.

    Here is a pick of the refin with the original tort pickguard . The cool thing about the original tort pickguard is that you can clearly see where the original owner rested his index and middle fingers under the finger rest to play with his thumb! Lotta gigs shown there!

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  13. basted

    basted

    Jul 22, 2017
    Hobart , Tasmania
    Many of the original color basses were stripped back to bare wood in the late 60s and 70s. The old hippy refin.
    My brother in law has an L series bass that was CAR.
     
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  14. BassmanM

    BassmanM

    Feb 17, 2011
    Hamburg, Germany
    I do not have a daughter, but 3 sisters and 3 nieces. Hope that counts.... :laugh:

    The only contribution I can make is that if you're currently looking for a vintage P in CAR, this shop in Germany currently has 3 (!) from 1966 for sale. No affiliation!

    Artikel im Shop bei Vintage Guitar | A-1219
     
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  15. Wisebass

    Wisebass

    Jan 12, 2017
    Lost in Space
    Hi Jellydonut :)

    Welcome to TB!!! :hyper::hyper::hyper:

    In over 35 years (since I play bass) I 've maybe seen a dozen!!! 70s CAR basses in person.

    None of them was as nice as yours!!! :drool:

    They can' t because they don' t know!!!

    1+

    They did not even track serial numbers!

    e.g there is an overlap of 20000!!! instruments between 1973 and 1974.

    There is an old saying: "When you want to know something about Fenders, don' t ask Fender!" :D

    greetings


    Wise(b)ass
     
  16. Volker Kirstein

    Volker Kirstein Blippy the Wonder Slug Supporting Member

    That beast is beautiful! Congrats!
     
  17. 2saddleslab

    2saddleslab Supporting Member

    May 30, 2003
    Kentucky
    Candy apple red was said to be Leo's favorite color.

    Love mine but had to add some pin stripes, just cause.
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  18. garp

    garp

    Feb 7, 2009
    Connecticut USA
    Welcome, and congrats. That's a fine lookin' instrument right there.
    Neato. I'm not sure which is rarer: A CAR P; or a P with a tug bar that has actually been used as Leo originally intended!
     
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  19. bassdude51

    bassdude51 "You never even called me by my name." Supporting Member

    Nov 1, 2008
    Central Ohio
    About 8 years ago, my son through a friend came across this 1966 CAR P. The grandson of the original owner was selling because he was getting married. I got it for really decent price. The body has a lot of wear but this beauty is 100% original and only ever had flat wounds. The truss rod had never been touched!

    Other than the "F" neck plate, this 1966 is built exactly like a 1964 pre-CBS and has all the same parts. In '64, Fender went with this newer type head stock decal.

    I can't believe I am it's proud owner! I don't deserve such a bass.

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  20. MYLOWFREQ

    MYLOWFREQ Supporting Member

    May 13, 2011
    New York
    CAR is a color that I hated back in the day and now I LOVE it. I have no idea what changed it.. I don't own a p in that color (shame) but will do someday I hope.
     
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