After 20 years of playing the bass I recently have decided to start implementing effects pedals into my sound. I have the three pedals pictured here. In what order should they be hooked up? Any suggestions on other pedals that would complement what I have here? Pictured: SansAmp BDDI, Boss CE-2B Bass Chorus and Density Hulk Sub Harmonic pedal. I do plan on purchasing more pedals so any advice you guys have would be greatly appreciated.
The most used order might be distortion pedals, then modulation pedals(flanger, chorus, etc) , and time based effects(delays) at the end
I was definitely going for a comp pedal next. And you can never go wrong with a little reverb. Thanks!
No prob! I just bought a 1984 dyna comp, and i can tell you, it's a killer pedal, i also have a tc electronic hof mini on the way, can't wait to add it to my chain!
Experiment, the only right order is the one that works for you. What you have here - Density Hulk >> CE-2B >> BDDI - is probably the standard order around here, but I think the opposite might work well too. It depends how you use them, especially the DH and BDDI. If you view the DH as an octaver/fuzz, then it should likely go first; if you think of the DH as a subharmonic synth, it should go later (especially depending on how the others affect the lows); if you use the BDDI as an overdrive it can go anywhere; if you use the BDDI as a DI, it should probably go last; if the CE-2B cuts lows or if you use it weird up the input of the DH, it to should go early; the BDDI before the DH might do something interesting; BDDI >> CE-2B might get you some sweet rock sounds; etc etc etc
I always thought it went Comp > Overdrive / Distortion > Modulation (chorus /flanger /phaser) > delay . The problem is the BDDI, I have the programmable one, and tbh, it can't be used as a DI, for the following reason: It is basically an overdrive pedal,and it should go after a comp and before a chorus and delay. So if you use it as your DI, your chorus/flanger/delay pedals won't be in your DI'd mix. I have a Dbx DI anyway and use the Sansamp just as a programmable OD and EQ unit. My only caveat is that I'm not sure if sound engineers want delays and choruses in the DI'd signal, but I'd think the bass player wants his effected sound FOH. I'm unsure on current practices in this regard as I haven't played live in 20 years, yikes, but that's all gonna change soon !
On Youtube there's a clip of a panel interview at Bass Player Live (!) from....last year, I think. Its got Billy, Frank Bello, Rex Brown and Dave Ellefson. They talk about FOH in terms of their sound and miking cabs and all that. After not hearing his sound in the mains, Frank B essentially made them mic his cab and use that sound. Its an interesting clip. Almost an hour but I learned some stuff from it, that idea among them. I terms of pedal order, I kinda like it when they're in a line.
Have fun with it--try it every way. But that said there are are orders that tend to work better--but it's more fun to experiment.
Yea, it's not like I got a lot of different combination choices. 1.At the risk of sounding like a noob, what does FOH mean? 2.What is the difference between using the SansAmp as a DI or using it as an overdrive pedal? The owners manual that came with it doesnt really give a good explanation. Either that or I'm just not seeing it.
Front of house (FOH). The BDDI is both an overdrive/eq/amp simulator and a DI. All I meant was that if you use it as a DI, you'll probably want it after the other pedals which might supercede your desire to use it as an overdrive earlier in the chain.
exactamundo ! Tonight I might try hooking up my pedals with the BDDI AFTER the chorus and hear how much of a difference it makes.
So i went BDDI (as an overdrive) -> chorus -> sub harmonic. Seems to work the best. My next two pedals will be M87 comp and Airplane Flanger. I think