How should the ideal bass guitar ?

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by ulasengin, Dec 27, 2014.

  1. ulasengin


    Oct 19, 2006
    I want to talk about those stretch to consider when choosing the ideal bass guitar .
    Generally, bass guitarists , when will buy a bass guitar, they focus on just tons and appearance.
    However, a bass guitar has a lot of detail.Comfort is as important as other features.
    So what are the elements that bring comfort ?
    Tehere are alot of details.

    Weight of your bass guitar is the very important detail for comfort. If you have a bass weight more than 4.5 kg , the stage may suffer. You must be careful when selecting your bass guitar in this regard.

    Another important issue is ''Neck Diving''. Neck diving means;
    Neck, goes right down because; the neck is heavier than the body .
    You will feel the full weight of the neck in your hand while playing . If the tuners are heavy like neck, you can solve the problem via changing the tuners. You can install, light tuners.
    But my advice is to pay attention to these details when the guitar.

    Another important issues are neck profile and string spacing.
    There are very different neck profiles in the bass produced in the market are used.
    Learn about the neck profile you enjoy playing the basses .

    When determining what you love , you can use the same method the string spacing at the bridge .
    Wide string spacing is better suited to play the slap style. Forexample; 19 mm.
    Bass guitarists with small hands, my advice is narrow string spacing. Forexample; 17,5 mm.

  2. wmhill

    wmhill Inactive

    Aug 20, 2012
    upstate NY
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  3. ulasengin


    Oct 19, 2006
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  4. Good that.......:thumbsup:

    Neck "Radius" is hardly ever mentioned when people discuss their acquisitions or reasons for buying here.

    Many posts appear to be all about "Brand" plus "Vintage".

    How many times do we see " I'm Gassing for a (19--fill in year) ( Fill in make).

    Then a reference to the great Pups it came with and then the "awesome tone' reference.

    I cannot stand neck-dive myself..........but if you took all the bass guitars that come with atrocious factory neck dive off the shelves that would get rid of at least two thirds of them right there.

    It's techically pretty easy to make a bass with no neck I don't know why the big names keep producing basses that have it.
  5. ulasengin


    Oct 19, 2006
    I agree with you.

  6. zontar


    Feb 19, 2014
    there are only two of those I like--and there are other variations of them (The U & C), even a soft V doesn't fit well to me. I could play one if I had to, but it wouldn't be my first choice.
    Most basses I've played have a neck closest tot eh U or the C with some like the flat oval.
  7. g4string

    g4string Supporting Member

    Sep 19, 2002
    Melissa, TX
    Radius is on my radar. I prefer 7.25" through 10". Anything greater than than 10" and I'm out. I don't dig a 12" radius (ala Sadowsky or Lull). My checklist starts with nut width, radius, and then weight.
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  8. steweDbass

    steweDbass Commercial User

    Jun 9, 2013
    Tokyo Japan
    Bacchus / STR Endorsing Artist and direct Dealer of new and used MIJ Brands.
    Hey man great post! Totally agree on all points you mention Ulas. They should all be considered carefully if you want a professional tool that is going to last you long and make playing more efficient and comfortable for you.
    For example, I personally like a thin U or D shape neck with a radius of 440 on a 5 string or 340 on a 4 string. I also prefer mid sized frets to thin ones or jumbo's, I also like a higher mass top loading bridge (which can help weight the body and help resonance). If the bass can weigh in around 4KGs or so then that's a bonus too! 5KG is too much, 4.5 is OK but not ideal....3.8 - 4.2 is comfortable for me. :)
    string spacing has to be 18 - 19mm for me, 20 is too wide though as i have medium sized hands.
    What about body materials? I personally like light Ash as a body wood. It seems to have great tone and resonance plus the lighter weight advantage.
  9. Dojix

    Dojix Guest

    May 24, 2014
    Brisbane, Australia
    I've been really interested in the neck shapes on Rick Toone's instruments, I don't know if they're as comfortable to play as they say they are, but it does interest me that there are several choices tailored on how you prefer to hold the instrument.
  10. ulasengin


    Oct 19, 2006
    Hi steweDbass;
    There are different wood combinations for different music styles in mind.
    Ash body with maple neck and maple or birdseye maple fingerboard, my favourite fretted 70's jazz bass configuration.
    I think that looks good on walnut top with ash body. Walnut is good choice for contrast.
    Alder body with maple neck, rosewood fingerboard is my favourite fretted 60's jazz bass configuration.
    Alder body, with maple neck,ebony fingerboard and quilted ash top is my favourite fretted headless configuration.
    Mahogany body,with maple neck, ebony fingerboard is my favourite fretless configuration.

    You can check my headless and Light Jazz bass;


    Body: Alder with quilted ash top (similar illustration)

    Neck: 3 pieces of hard rock maple

    Fingerboard: Ebony, 24 frets

    Construction: Set in

    Pickups: Delano Xtender with 2 mini switch (serial/single coil/parallel)

    Electronics: Active 3-band Glockenklang - volume (active/passive push/pull switch), balance, bass, middle, treble/passive tone blend

    Finish: Blue burst, transparent, body/neck matte

    Hardware: Chrome

    Special: 19mm string spacing


    Body: Alder with flamed maple top
    Neck: Hard rock maple
    Fingerboard: Maple, 24 frets
    Construction: Bolt on
    Pickups: Bassculture in wooden covers and 1 mini switch (serial/single coil/parallel)
    Electronics: Active 2-band Glockenklang - volume (active/passive push/pull switch), balance, bass, treble/passive tone blend
    Finish: Natural, body/neck matte
    Hardware: Black, wooden knops
    Weight: 3,62 kg

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  11. Sorry if this may seem off-topic. But, I can't help myself. It just looks too interesting with that finish.

    To the OP: What's the bass in your avatar you're holding? Any pics of it? Thanks.
  12. ulasengin


    Oct 19, 2006
    Hi millsbass5.
    This is not a finish.
    This is called a kind of foil coating.I designed it myself. The bass is KSD 705 but I have modified the bass.
    I changed the neck profile, hardware,pickups and electronic.
    Tuners:Hipshot Vintage Ultra Light
    Bridge: Hipshot B Style 19 mm String spacing.
    Pickups: EMG LJ 5 (White)
    Electronic: J-Retro Deluxe

  13. SirMjac28

    SirMjac28 Patiently Waiting For The Next British Invasion

    Aug 25, 2010
    The Great Midwest
    I don't know a neck profile from a Facebook profile I have never given it that much thought to me if the tone is there I can put up with just about anything.
  14. This is a great article if you plan on having one main bass. If you have an arsenal of Fenders, Rics, Gibsons and a Hofner, you know that the criteria used to choose an instrument varies. Sound, playability, reliability, vibe and appearance are all important factors. Besides, whatever tool is right for the job at hand is the one you most likely will use. I can't imagine auditioning for a YES tribute band and showing up with an EBO.
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  15. ulasengin


    Oct 19, 2006
    KSD 705.jpg

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  16. Neck radius is, for me, more important than nut width. I'd rather have a wide nut and a thinner distance between fingers and thumb (larger radius) for playing comfort.

    I also need adaptability in a bass. One sound won't cut it - I need a mid boost for solos and a more pronounced rear pickup sound for certain types of track.

    And more than comfort and adaptability, I need to hear every frequency of my bass through a band mix. I don't want to be buried and struggle to hear what I'm playing.
  17. Shovel


    Jun 4, 2013
    I did a survey about this a while back and found that the Ideal bass guitar for TB'ers (constructed from the most chosen options) was:
    A Solid Body 34" 4 string Jazz made of Ash with:

    A Clear Nitro Finish
    Passive Electronics
    Fretted, 24 frets
    Maple Jazz neck (70's), Rosewood Fingerboard (by a narrow margin)
    Hipshot A bridge
    No top wood, but if there were to be, it would be quilted maple
    Pickups: Tie between P and PJ
    No pickguard (if there were, it would be a P, no definite color)
    4 inline Hipshot ultralight tuners on a Fender shaped headstock
    No inlays, but if there were they would be mother of Pearl
    12" finger board radius
    19mm string spacing at bridge
    1 3/4" nut width
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  18. ulasengin


    Oct 19, 2006
    What I want to tell you , very friendly with some modification is needed for the player who knows what they want in a way the sound quality can be improved.
    In general, electronic and changes to the pickup, it is not very difficult to change .
    Sound and tone can be set to the desired point character through a variety of equipment . Forexample; Active Electronic, pickups, amps, pre-amps, processors, effect units....etc.
    But you never easy to do about modifying comfort.
    How can you lighten a heavy bass . You can change the hardware. It is easy way.
    But I do not know how it can provide benefit.
    How can you change your neck profile? An uncomfortable trying to play nice bass tone , you can demonstrate how your performance .
    Professionalism comes in here , I think . The matter from every angle while the music was so comfortable, so the results will be excellent.
    Tons of things that already pay attention to everyone. My goal is to draw attention to the section of attention .

  19. Yes, I can appreciate that any bass can be adapted towards the player's preference, but some of us aren't into modifying things. For many, it's down to looking and playing as many basses as we can and finding the one that fits. And yes, it's always a compromise. That's why we professional musicians usually have one main instrument and a few others for other situations.
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  20. ulasengin


    Oct 19, 2006
    Hi Shovel. I like your result.
    Please check the photos.

    TB Favourite.jpg

    TB J_P.jpg

    TB JJ_P.jpg

    TB P.jpg

    TB Precission.jpg

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