How to age Oly White finish to vintage look?

tonynoriega

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I just received a Squire CV Jazz in Oly White that I bought from a Tb'er and I have to say that I'm amazed at what a couple hundred dollars can buy in a bass these days.

The only thing I don't care for is the brilliant white color and I want to make it look more vintage in appearance but I don't want to relic the thing. Have any of you done this? I found the ReRanch website where they sell a tinted clear coat and would like to know if using that is a viable option, and if so, how the procedure is accomplished. Thanks!
 
Agree with ac . . . most Oly whites do not yellow . . . however, they do age! It's Vintage white that yellows, though I HAVE seen a yellowed Oly Jazz bass . . . it was played in the same bar for years - possibly the smoke from the cigarette smokers . . . this was way back when . . .

I have also 'heard' that setting them in the sunlight for an hour or so everyday does it.
 
Your bass has a poly finish, so really it won't yellow much, if at all....EVER. The "yellowing" in old nitrocellulose Oly White finishes was really caused by the clear coat ambering over time...not by the Oly White itself.

As far as yellowing, you could scuff the finish on your bass with a scrubby pad till the shine is gone....shoot a tinted nitro clear coat over it....then shoot clear over the top of that. You bass would be "out of commission" for about 30 days or so while the nitro dries.

Or you could just enjoy your bass and not worry about it.

:)



PS: some have tried softening the white on some poly finishes with Kiwi shoe polish - with varying results. Of course the Kiwi will rub/wear off over time, so you'd have to redo it periodically. Still, it's non-invasive, so you could easily give it a try and see if it works for you.
 
Thanks guys but in 3 months I'll be 65 and I don't have time to let it age naturally. I have an original '66 Jazz that has aged from all these years of use, but it's become too valuable to take to bar gigs so I bought the CV as a player. I really do need advice on how to do a fake aging job. As I said, I'm not going to break out the sander or bang it up....it's only the color that I want to tone down.
 
I remember reading (a long time ago) about a guitarist who had a guitar "smoke room" where he hung his guitars with a bunch of lit cigarettes. For some reason I think it's Tracey Gunns (sp?). Maybe that will do it for you, if nothing else it's a great reason to start smoking!
 
HOLD ON!
Do you really want to bathe your bass in cigarette smoke? Sure it may yellow but it will also stink.
You don't want to try to home-finish it with tinted clear either. NOt only is a thicker finish undesireable, only a pro could apply it and have it come out good. But even then it would look phony.
Let it happen naturally, it really doesn't take that long. And don't hear those saying it won't yellow, my Olympic white Tele got nice and "vintage-y" while being stored in it's case all on it's own.
 
HOLD ON!
Do you really want to bathe your bass in cigarette smoke? Sure it may yellow but it will also stink.

Agreed...except that it may not yellow at all....depends on the poly formulation. But it will indeed "stink". :)

You don't want to try to home-finish it with tinted clear either. NOt only is a thicker finish undesireable, only a pro could apply it and have it come out good. But even then it would look phony.

I disagree completely. It is quite possible for a first timer to do a simple overspray and have it look great. And no, it wouldn't look "phony" so long as it was done carefully. A few things to notice on older nitro guitars is that the Olympic White typically doesn't yellow "evenly". This is pretty easy to replicate....just don't spray the tinted clear evenly.

Another option would be to not use "Tinted Clear", but instead just overspray a nitrocellulose lacquer that doesn't contain anti-yellowing agents, such as Watco or Minwax brands. These will yellow naturally. UV will yellow them fairly fast, depending o the exposure type - sun, tanning bed, etc...

As for finish thickness, that's a whole 'nother debate that really hasn't been proven for either side - the pro's or the cons.

Let it happen naturally, it really doesn't take that long.

I disagree. It all depends on the formula Poly that was sprayed. Most modern poly contains anti-yellowing agents that will keep this from happening naturally.

And don't hear those saying it won't yellow, my Oyympic white Tele got nice and "vintage-y" while being stored in it's case all on it's own.


What year is your Tele ? Up until the early 2000's, the poly didn't seem to have the heavy anti-yellowing agents that it does currently, so Poly finished guitars built before then will often yellow "somewhat". After about 2003 or so, they don't tend to yellow much. There are exceptions to this, but for the most part, current/modern guitars won't yellow much, if at all.

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Any poly finish will take a long time to show any discoloration from age.

and IMO; Contrary to popular opinion, cigarette smoke contributing to the yellowing of older instruments has little merit. You would have to expose something constantly to smoke for a long time, and even then, it would wipe off. Natural aging of nitro is the prime factor in yellowing of old finishes.
 
Any poly finish will take a long time to show any discoloration from age.

and IMO; Contrary to popular opinion, cigarette smoke contributing to the yellowing of older instruments has little merit. You would have to expose something constantly to smoke for a long time, and even then, it would wipe off. Natural aging of nitro is the prime factor in yellowing of old finishes.

good luck with wiping smoke residue off any finish but poly.
 
I have an early 90's MIJ P(looks a lot like "Vintage White" in Fender's current color chart). The finish is actually fading on this bass, it's much darker under the pick-guard.

Any time I've gotten a new bass I've always left it out in the living room and tried to thump on it as much as possible. It takes time to get used to a bass and a new color, plus you'll knock a little bit of the shine off the bass naturally. If it still bothers you after a few weeks then....