Hey.... For the past couple weeks I've been having a lot of difficulty playing with the drummer in a combo here. He's very... well let me explain. He has fabulous technique and can hear extremely complex rhythms, but he plays almost exclusively on cymbals. He's always playing absurdly complicated and convoluted grooves, which seldom involve the hi-hat. Most of the time he is using his right hand to play fast and crazy rhythms on a cymbal, and ornamenting that further with occasional clicks on the rim of his snare. Sometimes he abandons the snare completely and just does cymbals. Alright, so that's pretty much how he plays. Let me note I think it's a completely valid style. This guy takes occasional lessons with Jeff Ballard and draws a lot from Joey Baron, to give you an idea. So I can't knock it. But I just cannot play with him, no matter how hard I try. He has this attitude that the responsibility for groove is solely with the bassist, and that the drums are more of an ornamental element of the group. So I have to ignore what he is playing a lot of the time and focus on laying down a simple line just to keep the time. The result is that there is almost zero musical interplay between us, and he scolds me for trying to react musically to what he is doing. Often I have to force myself to stop listening to what he is playing, because it has so little to do with the actual groove. It gets worse when I want to solo, because he does one of two things: a) he stops playing entirely, or b) he continues playing rhythms that are tangential to the groove. Sometimes during a solo I want to scream, "HI-HAT! HI-HAT!" It's honestly my worst nightmare, trying to deal with this.... And I've been open-minded about it. Basically I am wondering if anyone here has dealt with drummers like this. Any tips? I am sort of stuck playing with this guy; there isn't a plethora of jazz musicians on campus. And I'm not sure I want to tell him to change the way he plays, because again it's so similar to what I hear in the most recent Mehldau record, for example. I get the impression it is an increasingly common and preferred approach to drumming. It's just not my thing! I wish I could play with someone like... I dunno, Billy Higgins. Heh.... Thanks for any advice, consolation, or even flames (I'm waiting for this thread to be Fuquized) edit: just to reinforce where my own preferences lie, the pinnacle for me is hearing Mickey Roker play with Ray Brown. Hardest groove I've ever heard.