Ok, having been a 'somewhat' accomplished classical bass player for around ten years, I feel the need to learn something more than basic theory. I struggled my way through highschool theory and jazz band, and just about gouged my eyes out in college freshman theory; now I want to know how all the rest of you guys learned it. I've listened to almost as much jazz as the next guy, been around jazz musicians for years, but no matter what I can not seem to grasp anything more than basic scales, modes and chords. Am I ********? Or am I just missing something... everyone I know just seems to intuitively come upon this knowlege, while I beat my head agains a wall tying to understand 'theory for dummies'. Do I need to learn piano? This seems like it would be a logical step in the right direction, and I know it couldn't hurt even if it done't help my theory. So what gives?