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how to make a bass that sound like a WAL or STINGRAY??

Discussion in 'Luthier's Corner' started by crazymacaco, Sep 4, 2008.


  1. crazymacaco

    crazymacaco

    Sep 2, 2008
    hi!, i'm from Argentina ( sorry my english) and i wanna shape a bass that sound like a 4 string WAL or STINGRAY...
    can you help me to do it?
    woods, scale, mics...
    i have a jazz bass fretless.. but now i'm searching my funk bass :hyper:
    so... help!!!!!!
    thnks.:bassist:
     
  2. skiscem

    skiscem Supporting Member

    search... there is tons of threads about wal and how to get their sound
     
  3. XylemBassGuitar

    XylemBassGuitar Supporting Member Commercial User

    Aug 14, 2008
    Durango, CO
    Owner and Operator, Xylem Handmade Basses and Guitars
    Match these aspects of the Stingray/Wal basses to your bass' design:


    1) Scale lengths

    2) Types/Brands of pickups and electronics

    3) Woods

    4) Headstock angles

    That should at least get your bass close to matching the sounds of those basses.
     
  4. jgroh

    jgroh Supporting Member

    Sep 14, 2007
    Pennsylvania
    Someone told me they can get in a reasonable ballpark with a G&L L2000 (not exactly, but close).

    Hopefully you arent trying to get the awesome tone of that Tool bass player...whats his name...you know, I dont think he has ever been mentioned on TB before....yeah, that guy.

    Just joking, and welcome to Talkbass! =)
     
  5. eleonn

    eleonn

    Aug 24, 2006
    Lima - Perú
    Crazymamaco... si quieres un bajo que suene como un Wal o Stingray porque no tratas de comprarte uno en lugar de hacerte uno que suene así. En el sonido de un bajo juegan muchas variables. Lo divertido de hacerte un bajo no es que suene como A, B o C sino que pueda tener su propio sonido.
     
  6. Papersen

    Papersen Supporting Member

    Mar 22, 2002
    Or try an Ibanez ATK series. It`s known for it`s similar sound to a Stingray and it`s much more affordable. Check `em out if you can.
     
  7. I tried one out just this morning, didnt plug it in as the 'may I help you' riff didnt seem to work, but it felt quite nice.

    I'll go back this weekend and see if I can try it though an amp.
     
  8. el problema es que son un poco caros en argentina. Un stingray debe andar por los 9 mil pesos. (casi 7 veces el sueldo entero de un empleado de comercio) aunque no tengo precios actuales :crying:

    con un tercio de ese dinero se puede comprar un bajo de alguno de los mejores luthiers del país, que son instrumentos de superior calidad que un stingray (en mi opinion)
     
  9. eleonn

    eleonn

    Aug 24, 2006
    Lima - Perú
    En Perú es lo mismo sino peor... a lo que iba es que si quiere un bajo que suene como X marca, lo mejor es comprarte uno de esa marca. Lo bueno de mandarte hacer (o hacerte) un bajo es que podría ser mejor que uno de esa X marca con lo que es mejor tener un poco de mente abierta.
     
  10. UncleBalsamic

    UncleBalsamic

    Jul 8, 2007
    UK
    As far as I know a Wal sound will be hard to recreate because it has very unusual pickups and electronics. A Stignray however can be recreated to some extent by an Ibanez ATK. Or you could look for used Stingrays as you can sometimes find them cheap.
     
  11. crazymacaco

    crazymacaco

    Sep 2, 2008
    bueno... sigo buscando maderas.. gracias a todos por contestar...
    voy a usar un humbucker seguro.
    ok i still searching wood thnks all for answer...
    i'm going tu use a humbuker for sure..
     
  12. eleonn

    eleonn

    Aug 24, 2006
    Lima - Perú
    Crazymacaco you should look for woods with mechanical and physical properties close to the most common ones (maple and ash). I did that to chose the woods I needed. I'm not sure about what woods you have at Argentina but if you want pm me you email address and I'll send you the file (excel) I made about two years ago with some wood information.
     
  13. Taylor Livingston

    Taylor Livingston Supporting Member Commercial User

    Dec 25, 2002
    Oregon, US
    Owner, Iron Ether Electronics
    Zuh? Is this is a serious comment or a joke?
     
  14. maple fingerboard, dense fairly heavy body wood (walnut, ash or maple or somesuch), large bridge, musicman style humbucking pickup near (not too near) the bridge, coil tapping.
    34" scale, ummmmmmmmm
    That should get you there
     
  15. Ricky Caboverde

    Ricky Caboverde Supporting Member

    Feb 26, 2004
    Miami, FL
    Me gustaria opinar algo en este caso, siendo que he tenido el privilegio de haber tenido un Wal. Ahorita, tengo un G&L L-1000 porque desafortunadamente tuve que vender al Wal. Dejame decirte que el G&L llega bastante cerca al sonido particular que me gustaba del Wal. No voy a mentirte y decir que puedo lograr todo los sonidos del Wal con el G&L, eso no lo puedes hacer con ningun otro bajo excepto a un Wal de verdad. Otra cosita es que estoy usando a un amplificador SWR electric blue que tiene EQ parametrico (ayuda bastante) :) El G&L tiene maderas completamente differentes que al Wal, y tambien es de un sistema sin baterias (el Wal custom que tuve era solamente con baterias). Con eso quiero decir, que no es tanto las maderas usadas sino son los electronicos, y MAS todavia COMO tu usas y manipulas a esos electronicos.
    Buena suerte con tu proyecto. Aunque no te podria prometer que puedas conseguir ese sonido tan atesorado de un Wal con este proyecto, el proyecto en si sera mucho mas divertido.
     
  16. NKUSigEp

    NKUSigEp

    Jun 6, 2006
    Bright, IN
    Sweet reference!



    Wal & Music Man? It's all in the pickups and electronics.
     
  17. mikeswals

    mikeswals Supporting Member

    Nov 18, 2002
    Seattle / Tacoma
    The Wal Custom basses everyone is most familiar with (MK I, MK II, MK III), just about all of them have mahogany cores for the body. Mahogany is what gives depth (strong low-mids) to the tone, so with humbuckers it's going to get you very close.

    I have always thought the 30th anniv StingRay with its mahogany body has that convincing depth like a Wal, but the only thing it's missing is a front humbucker.
    But I've never felt an HH StingRay or L2000 does it because their ash bodies are much brighter in tone.
    I still think the closest thing to my Wal is my preEB Sabre. The old northern ash body has similar depth, and the dual humbuckers and 2 band eq sound similarly huge.
     
  18. crazymacaco

    crazymacaco

    Sep 2, 2008
  19. crazymacaco

    crazymacaco

    Sep 2, 2008
    hey so i finish my jazz bass =)
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  20. Looks very nice, was this your first build? Doesn't look like it!
     

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