I'm having some mix and tone issues at my church and looking for suggestions and advice. The first big issue is that it's a fully volunteer operation. Four volunteer instrumentalists, and a few volunteer FOH engineers of varying skill levels and mixing tastes. Add on top that the congregation is pretty widely distributed in ages, meaning we are having troubles managing the "I can't hear the bass" opinions with the "if I can hear the bass it's too loud" ones . Namely it seems like the percussion and bass are being seen as overwhelming, even when they seem to be well below what might be considered a standard mix (say, for when we use recorded music). Add on top that I'm not sure what kind of tone I need to be heard, fill out the body of the of the music, and not run afoul of the more conservative sensibilities of those listening. I'm using a Stingray knockoff currently and believe that may be part of the trouble, just a poor sound source. I currently EQ with boosted mids and rolling off a bit at 4k and 40Hz. Previously I was boosting around 500-700Hz which seemed to end up a bit too harsh for the material, as well as cluttered in the sonic space thanks to relatively full-bodied guitar and organ sounds and an already somewhat harsh Stingray tone, so I moved down to boosting around 250-300Hz instead, but I think that may just be muddying up things worse. I have a Fender Jazz with noiseless pups on the way (only reason I'm not using my current jazz is the room has tons of EMI and gets killer hum), and am kinda depending on that to be a breakthrough. Right now my strategy is to use its mid boost (@500Hz) to get the bit of presence I need, coupled with flatwounds to fill out the low mids without needing to EQ them in (can't add what isn't there to begin with). Then the pickup pan can help tweak the tone depending on how bright of full bodied I need for a given song. To try and make a long story short, does anyone have experience with similar ensembles and getting them mixed? Is my jazz+flats strategy halfway reasonable? What can I do to create a sound that will sit in the mix without muddying it or being too harsh for a conservative audience? What can I suggest to the other instrumentalists (who thankfully are very open to ideas and changes) or the FOH volunteers to make sonic space for the bass? Any tips for teaching a ground of volunteers to mix the rhythm section in a way that is both well defined and 'old people friendly'?