How to Reduce Fret Buzz

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by gjohnson441496, Jan 2, 2015.

  1. gjohnson441496

    gjohnson441496

    Dec 14, 2014
    As some of you know I just recently bought a 2005 Fender AmStd Jazz bass. This bass looks like it has never been played. There's not a scratch on it and I love the tones it produces. It came with round wounds which I replaced with flatwounds 45 - 100. I didn't want to mess with the setup other than changing the strings but I'm getting fret buzz on the A string on the 5th fret and on the E A & D strings from the 7th fret on up the neck going towards the pups. The string height as far as I am concerned is fine but I'm wondering if I should make a slight truss rod adjustment.

    I would like opinions on how to eliminate fret buzz.

    Thanks
     
  2. bholder

    bholder Affable Sociopath Gold Supporting Member Supporting Member

    Sep 2, 2001
    Vestal, NY
    Received a gift from Sire* (see sig)
    Depends on what is really causing the buzz. Lots of factors, could just be a loose fret that needs setting or filing down or something. Read up a lot before starting to mess with the truss rod.
     
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  3. gjohnson441496

    gjohnson441496

    Dec 14, 2014
    Thanks bholder. I've done truss rod adjustments on other guitars (pbass/jaguar bass), so I know a small turn can make a big difference, and I know not to force turning it. Good idea to check the frets. I'll do that now... Thanks
     
  4. gjohnson441496

    gjohnson441496

    Dec 14, 2014
    The frets aren't loose. They're not even worn out. No string wear either...
     
  5. Shabz

    Shabz

    Jun 20, 2014
    No expert here but if buzzing is happening on all frets above 7th surely the saddles are too low

    doing a setup over the internet is quite difficult either way
     
  6. j.kernodle

    j.kernodle

    Nov 23, 2008
    South Carolina
    If you're getting buzz on all strings as you go up the neck, you may want to try tightening the truss Rod a touch. Hold the bass in your lap and fret the E string at the first fret with your index finger and around the 15th fret with your right thumb. Check the gap between the string and the top of the sixth and seventh fret, if you see more than just a touch of gap, you could probably stand to take some relief out. Too much relief can cause higher notes to buzz. If the neck is pretty straight, but still buzzes on random frets you may have a high fret or two that could stand to be leveled out. It's called a fret level and crown job and even some brand new production basses need it from time to time.

    If you have a fairly straight neck, there's no reason you shouldn't be able to get your string height down to about 3/32" at the 12th fret on your e string with minimal or no buzzing.

    Sometimes, bolt on necks will experience neck lift or "ski ramp" that causes notes above the 15th fret to buzz like crazy no matter what you do. It doesn't sound like that's your situation though. If you have that, a fret level is sometimes enough to fix it, but in extreme cases, a Luthier will have to plane the fingerboard to get it reasonably flat again. Post back with your findings please.
     
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  7. ggunn

    ggunn

    Aug 30, 2006
    Austin, TX
    This. In order to fix it you need to first find what is causing it and fix the right thing. FWIW, I will do string height, intonation, and truss rod tweaking myself, but when it comes to frets I let a pro handle it.
     
  8. j.kernodle

    j.kernodle

    Nov 23, 2008
    South Carolina
    I will echo the post above and add this setup video. Years ago a learned a ton by watching this.

     
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  9. bholder

    bholder Affable Sociopath Gold Supporting Member Supporting Member

    Sep 2, 2001
    Vestal, NY
    Received a gift from Sire* (see sig)
    What I meant was have you gone fret to fret with a straight edge to see if any are out of line? It can happen, but it can also be bridge saddles, nut slot buzz, relief issues (meaning truss rod), etc. We don't have much info to go on here. all I'm saying. Don't assume tweaking the truss rod will be the solution if that's not what's causing the buzz. Problem isolation before resolution. :)
     
  10. gjohnson441496

    gjohnson441496

    Dec 14, 2014
    That video really helped. Thanks for posting it. I'm still getting some buzz above the 14 fret but not enough to be concerned as I normally don't play above the 12th fret anyway. However, I will take it in to a Luthier for a fret level and crown job but it sounds great now. I followed the "string height, intonation, and truss rod" order that GGunn suggested.

    Thanks guys. I appreciate all of the suggestions and feedback on this.
     
  11. MrBKerth

    MrBKerth The Gypsy Bravado

    Apr 20, 2013
    Texas

    You should get feeler gauges before you start messin with the truss. I ended up shimming, having my frets leveled, and also adjusting the relief on a bass that played "fine" out of the box. While that sounds like a lot, it is worth it when people I know who have extremely nice expensive instruments pick up my bass and are like "well darn it practically plays itself". It is also an American Standard Jazz.
     
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  12. gjohnson441496

    gjohnson441496

    Dec 14, 2014
    Thats a good idea. I called around guitars stores (GC, and local stores), and they don't carry them so I'm ordering what I need from Amazon.com Thanks for the suggestion
     
  13. MDBass

    MDBass Supporting Member

    Nov 7, 2012
    Los Angeles, CA
    Endorsing Artist: Dingwall-Fender-Bergantino-Dunlop-Tech 21-Darkglass-Nordstrand
    Glad you worked it out!

    If you're getting buzz across all frets above the 14th, the saddles are still a touch too low; if there is only buzz on certain frets then should probably take it in for a fret dressing.
     
  14. davy4575

    davy4575

    Nov 4, 2009
    Denver, CO
    I couldnt imagine not playing above the 12th fret at times.
     
  15. Buying a fretless solved the issue for me.

    (...Just my $.13 worth... you're welcome)
     
  16. bholder

    bholder Affable Sociopath Gold Supporting Member Supporting Member

    Sep 2, 2001
    Vestal, NY
    Received a gift from Sire* (see sig)
    Ok, so now, let's talk about that annoying fingerboard buzz! :)
     
  17. MilkyMcMilkMilk

    MilkyMcMilkMilk

    Dec 17, 2008
    That video is awesome, I watched it the 1st time a week or 2 ago. I have 2 basses that could use a set up
    I'm gonna use his great tips and see if I can get these in playing shape.
     
  18. gjohnson441496

    gjohnson441496

    Dec 14, 2014
    lol

    No more buzz! It's amazing. I don't know what happened, but I started practice this morning and viola... no buzz at all even above the 14th fret. I also wanted to see if it is in tune at the 5th and 17th fret, per Carl Pedigo (the video), and it's in tune at the open, 5th, and 17th fret.

    Thanks guys I appreciate all of the advice.
     
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  19. bholder

    bholder Affable Sociopath Gold Supporting Member Supporting Member

    Sep 2, 2001
    Vestal, NY
    Received a gift from Sire* (see sig)
    Learning to do your own setups is just so important. Not that I'm very good at it, have to review all the info I can get my hands on every time. :)