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Howard Stern Suspended from Clear Channel

Discussion in 'Off Topic [BG]' started by Boplicity, Feb 25, 2004.

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  1. Boplicity

    Boplicity Supporting Member

    (If this has been posted elsewhere, please delete my post.)

    Shock jock Howard Stern has now joined Bubba the Love Sponge by having been booted from Clear Channels radio waves while under investigation for indecent, racist and scurrilous commentary, particularly that made on a recent show.

    I don't know where you folks stand on the issue of allowing shock jocks on the air to make any and all coments that come into their heads, but for me I find these men pathetic and disgusting. That said, I do worry a great deal about the current crackdown on "indecency" because who decides what is "decent"?

    Here is a link to the news.


    Click on the lead headline, "Howard Stern Booted Off Clear Channel."
  2. secretdonkey


    Oct 9, 2002
    Austin, TX
    My thoughts exactly.
  3. James Hart

    James Hart

    Feb 1, 2002
    Endorsing Artist: see profile
    About time!!!!

    I was sick of him back in 87-88... I've caught him a few times over the years and I swear he's still doing the same show!
    (actually I'm not sure I want Clear Channel choosing what I hear... but I think the ends could justify the means here)

    IMHO of course ;)
  4. embellisher

    embellisher Holy Ghost filled Bass Player Supporting Member

    I agree.
  5. Brendan

    Brendan Supporting Member

    Jun 18, 2000
    Austin, TX
    I don't care for his humor, but only because I think it's stupid to need that kind of humor/commentary to get ratings.

    That said, I think it's stupid. People should be free to peddle their bathroom humor, so I say bully on Clear Channel. Besides, aside from a crappy host, Howard seems to be an okay guy. I think...

    Besides, how old are the erection and fart jokes? C'mon, get some new material.
  6. Hmm - I find that somewhat surprising, although I used to like Howard Stern. I'm surprised he's doing the same old garbage, but I suppose there's no accounting for taste, and if it keeps the ratings up, who cares! Anyone here ever heard "The Morning Buzz"? Gawd! what a piece of garbage programming! I used to work with a moron who had to listen to this piece of drivel each and every morning! He thought it was the best thing since sliced-bread! Gawd! what a LOSER! Anyway, talking about Clear Channel, here are a couple of links - they're old but still pretty interesting:

    Clear Channel - Big Bully

    Clear Channel - Payola

    (these are part of a series and make interesting readingÂ…)

    - Wil
  7. jivetkr


    May 15, 2002
    What exactly did howard say that pushed clear channel over the edge?

    I used to listen to howard when I drove to work & I cant imagine him saying anything worse than has already been said.
  8. brianrost

    brianrost Gold Supporting Member

    Apr 26, 2000
    Boston, Taxachusetts
    The first time I heard Hpward was back in the 80s. He had May Pang on as his guest and he kept bugging her to tell him how John Lennon was in bed. That was enough for me to realize I had no interest in the guy.

    This isn't the first time he's been suspended. The suspensions just give him free publicity anyway. If his ratings are still OK, he'll be back on the air soon enough.
  9. Boplicity

    Boplicity Supporting Member

    He was suspended for comments made on his Tuesday show that included disgustingly phrased references to having sex with an African American women.

    Maybe he has made such remarks for years, but the FTC is cracking down now and fining broadcasters hefty sums of money for airing anything that violates community standards of decency. All of this comes in the wake of thousands of complaints filed with the FTC after the Super Bowl half time show.

    I am no fan of Stern. I am no fan of Bubba the Love Sponge, either. But I do worry about how decency is defined. I do define the work of the two slugs as indecent, but if the FTC follows my standards few videos would run on MTV or BET, many ads such as those for Victoria's Secret and many Fox sit coms would never air.

    So whose standards determine decency? Mine? Pat Buchanan's? Jerry Falwell's? Pat Robertson's? Or someone else? What I call indecent and what the next guy calls indecent are two very different things. So who decides and who draws the line? Is Britney Spears' gossamer cat suit in her latest video decent, but Janet Jackson's metal pastie indecent? I mean who draws such distinctions? Who decides?

    For me, I'm really, really glad Bubba and Stern are gone (maybe until elections are over), but they did entertain a huge audience every day and that audience no longer has a say in what they hear. My greater concern is when the FTC decides my favorite series "The Sopranos" is indecent and that "The Passion of Christ" is too violent to be shown and that women need to wear ankle length gowns with long sleeves and high necklines when on TV. Where does it end? And who ultimately decides?
  10. Jon Burnet

    Jon Burnet

    Jan 21, 2001
    Memphis, TN
    i think its sad. i dont care for the show but its one step closer in the wrong direction. government needs to keep its paws of my artistic expression. there is a simple solution. dont like it? dont listen.
  11. Electricmayhem


    Dec 18, 2003
    This is good news.

    Goodbye, Howard!
  12. Davehenning


    Aug 9, 2001
    Los Angeles
    Stern's show was taken off of 6 stations out of the total 120 or so that broadcast it because a caller to the show made an ethnic slur. While I despise what the caller said, I agree with free speech, even if what is being said offends me.

    Good taste and decency are subjective at best. Most people who are raised with any common sense of respect for others would not have said what that caller said.

    ClearChannel President Hogan said "We want to protect our listener's from this kind of content." Protect us?? What a condescending sob!
    If he felt so compelled to protect us, then why only six stations? Why not all 120? Stern's show has been the same for years, why didn't they pull is 5 or 10 years ago?? Ratings=Money. Sterns ratings are the highest in the nation along with Rush Limbaugh. Limbaugh has offended me ten times more then Stern has, yet I would never question his right to free speech. Sounds like money talks and BS walks to me.

    If I don't like what I hear, I turn the dial. It is that simple.

    As I said before, I agree with free speech, even if what is being said offends me.
  13. canopener


    Sep 15, 2003
    Isle of Lucy
    I think it's funny how the FCC will launch an 'investigation' for the Superbowl halftime scandal, but are swift with the suspentions for the radio guys.
  14. christle


    Jan 26, 2002
    Winnipeg, MB
    +1 - both parts - Dan
  15. WillPlay4Food

    WillPlay4Food Now With More Metal! Supporting Member

    Apr 9, 2002
    Orbiting HQ
    You guys don't even know what happened, do you?

    A caller used a certain racial slur that begins with the letter after 'M'. It didn't get bleeped for whatever reason, so Howie got suspended for violating Clear Channel's decency policy.

    That said, I'm not a fan of Howie's show, in fact I set my alarm to it because it gets me up to turn that crap off!

    With that said, even though I don't enjoy his show doesn't mean I should have the right to take him off the air. There are obviously plenty of people who dig him for whatever reason.

    Oh yea, Clear Channel booted him from 6 stations. Infinity broadcasting still has him on 185 stations, so it isn't like he's been thrown off the airwaves.
  16. Thor

    Thor Gold Supporting Member In Memoriam

    That being duly noted, my reaction is that Clear Channel still
    has the power to do this at their discretion. They own the stations that broadcast Howard's show and pay him for
    his product like any other vendor. They can attract advertisers with Howard's ratings as well. They can choose not to buy it, if they don't like it, I suppose.

    The underlying issue that concerns me much more is that the FCC has allowed much more consolidation of radio licenses that it ever should have. To have one corporation control so many radio stations in the US is unconscionable and an insult to the concept that radio waves are a public resource and part of the public trust managed by the government. Kind of
    like giving Exxon-Mobil an exclusive lease to drill for oil 50% of all US Federal land for their own profit.

    With a limited resource- they are not giving out any new free
    frequencies for AM or FM Band use - it allows CC to have a
    virtual monopoly in certain markets. Here In Little Rhody, the
    4 top rated stations are owned by CC. And they were not
    started by CC, but acquired by CC.

    I am not sure some prurient prig in Hosetown, Texas is
    qualified to judge what I want to hear and should be protected from. I'm a big boy and can make up my mind myself. I am capable of operating the off button by myself
    perfectly well, thank you very much. Just give me the facts, I'll make my own decisions.

    The combination of government and big business deciding
    together what we need to hear or not hear smacks of fascism at its worst.
  17. MJ5150

    MJ5150 Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Apr 12, 2001
    Olympia, WA
    I do not know exactly what happened, but I read a story today about the big boss at CC apologizing to a House committee for the indecent material. Nowhere in the article from the USA Today that I read did it mention anything racial, just sexual. Here is a quote from the article:

    "For many critics, Stern is the poster child for indecency. His show has graphic references to sex and regularly includes strippers and pornographic movie stars as on-air guests. The show that prompted Clear Channel to act included a man discussing a sexual encounter with hotel heiress Paris Hilton."

    The entire article can be found here:http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2004-02-26-hill-indecency_x.htm?csp=24

    I hope all of this publicity scares off the lame Howard-wannabes. THOSE are the ones that really suck.

  18. vegaas


    Nov 6, 2001
    Its a slippery slope we are going down my friends. Its seems that every couple of months we are losing more rights and becoming more regulated. Unfortunatly it is happening in a way that most of the American public doesnt realize.
    I have never been a fan of Howard Sterns, but; I find it hard to believe he has recently had something worse on his airwaves than what he has had on in the past.
    Janet and Justins little stunt may be something we all have to pay for.
  19. embellisher

    embellisher Holy Ghost filled Bass Player Supporting Member

    How dare you insult me like that!!!:mad:

  20. Thor

    Thor Gold Supporting Member In Memoriam


    You should have read what I wrote before I changed it
    to 'prurient prig'! :eek:

    Any body notice that in above USA Today article, the title of FCC Chairman Michael Powell is incomplete?

    His full title is 'FCC Chairman and Clear Channel Sycophant Michael Powell'.

    I note:

    R- Texas

    Can you smell a deal here?
    Committee Chairman = Congressman from Texas

    Do any of you think 775K is a lot of money for the largest
    radio network in the world? It's chump change to them.
    A little slap on the wrist, and you (we) get more control of
    the media.

    The hypocrisy is JUST killing me here.

    This is a good article which illuminates some of the buildup the the current media mess we are looking at. It makes interesting reading and may refresh your viewpoint on the media ownership and content issues.

    This is a complex issue, but bears watching.

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