Here's a funny little story. My wife and I got a good chuckle out of it -- maybe you will too. There's a church run thrift store in town which my family and I patronize on a regular basis since I hate to pay a lot for clothes, esp. work business casual stuff. We give a lot of oldclothes to them and we buy a lot more. Nice place, nice folks running it, lots of neat toys for the little one. Anyway, this weekend they had a 50% off sale on everything in the store. I went to the Men's section and located a nice loooking pair of T Hilfiger khakis, decided that they'd be nice to have, added them to my basket and moved on. Didn't bother to try them on; they said 38 x 32 and that was okay with me. At $2.50 a pop, how can I lose? Later I got them home and noticed that the fly pull was gone and in its place was a piece of wire twisted into the end of the zipper. I had done that with a pair of khakis just a few months before. Not only that, I had given those khakis to...a local thrift store I patronize regularly. And now you know the rest of the story.