Psst... Ready to join TalkBass and start posting, make new friends, sell your gear, and more?  Register your free account in 30 seconds.

I can't get good sound

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by Bassman2003, Nov 26, 2001.


  1. I am having problems getting good sound with my carvin redeye combo. I just cant get it to play clean and get a good floor shaking bass out of it. When it plays clean it sounds like a guitar amp. If you have any ideas help me thanks
     
  2. cassanova

    cassanova

    Sep 4, 2000
    Florida
    carvin's dont get that much bottom end to begin with, including their 15's. I dont know much about the redeye combo, and am only speaking from experience on their RL Cabinets. You wont get earth shaking bottom end from them, they arent tuned low enough for that.

    as for a good clean sound, i just suggest you keep tweeking the eq, gain settings, etc, untill you find one.

    btw, fill out your profile so we know a little bit more about you, it makes it a bit easier for us to help you at times too.
     
  3. rllefebv

    rllefebv

    Oct 17, 2000
    Newberg, Oregon
    I have an RC210 combo and play an MIA P-Bass and Epi Jack Casady through it with plenty of clean bottom. I did fill the cabinet with a pound of 'Acousta-Stuf' which made a difference, but other than that, all stock. If you feel like digging further...

    http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/pshowdetl.cfm?&PartNumber=260-317&DID=7

    For my sound, I basically followed the manual's instructions on setting the gain level... Set the master volume to a low level, plug your main bass in with it's volume turned all the way up, (or wherever you'd normally be playing), pluck the strings slightly harder than normal while turning the input gain slowly up. When the clip light flashes, you're there. I also use the mid-shift.

    I then set the compressor/limiter, noise gate, and graphic EQ off, Bass and Treble to 12 O'clock and use the parametric EQ to boost the mids slightly at 800Hz. For me, this sounds good and exploits the sonic differences between the two basses nicely. When I use the graphic EQ, it is usually in a modified 'Smiley Face' with mids cut and bass/treble boosted slightly. Alot of that depends on the room, and generally 800Hz is a boosting frequency for me.

    If I'm bi-amping, I'll run the lows into a home-made 1X15 and set the crossover as low as it can go, (which still isn't low enough for me, as the 2X10 cab doesn't get expolited nearly enough). This adds quite a bit of breadth to the sound, IMO. When using the combo by itself, I run it bridged, full range, which pushes the cab at 600W. Do this at your own risk, as there are those who will tell you that you will blow your cab doing this.

    I have had a chance to play the R600 head with other cabs, (it slides rather easily out of the combo after removing the four top screws), and there is definitely truth in what cassanova is saying, IMO. The Carvin sounded great powering a pair of Eden 2X10's and this past weekend I got to try it into a Goliath Sr. :eek: Plenty of nads!!! I sometimes run it bridged/stand-alone into my 1X15 and it rocks there too. While the foam helped the Carvin cab deliver more lows, I'm slowly working around to the opinion that others have expressed... Their heads are better than their cabs.

    HTH,
    -robert

    edit - spelling error. Doh!
     
  4. thanks a lot. Ill try that and ill be sure to fill out my profile for you guys.
     
  5. i tried what you said and it just sounds like a fat guy is farting through my amp. a whole lotta distortion going on. also you said something about a noise gate. I couldnt find the noise gate so either i am blind or stupid :) lol. well if you have any more ideas ill gladly take them.
     
  6. i tried everything you said but i cant get good sound. it sounds like somebody is farting into an amp. i can get better sound out of my peavey microbass. what is that noise gate thing you where talking about because i never found it.
     
  7. stevekim

    stevekim

    Feb 11, 2000
    los angeles, ca
    could be something wrong with the amp. check for a blown speaker.
     
  8. rllefebv

    rllefebv

    Oct 17, 2000
    Newberg, Oregon
    stevekim's right... there could very well be something wrong with the amp. Here's two pics of my head, with the controls set as described, (with the exception of the compressor... I used it during the last gig as we got a bit loud :D )...

    Without the graphic EQ engaged... The parametric boosting at 800Hz...

    [​IMG]

    And with the EQ engaged. Parametric is cutting slightly at about 400Hz, (graphic's boosting the 800Hz band), the crudely drawn arrow is pointing to the noise gate...

    [​IMG]

    These settings have worked well for me from the get-go, and though I do fiddle with them as the situation dictates, this is always a reliable starting point for me. Your mileage may vary.

    Good luck. I hope this helps...

    -robert
     
  9. rllefebv

    rllefebv

    Oct 17, 2000
    Newberg, Oregon
    Hey BM2003... I noticed that you're using Yamaha's... If these models are active, be sure that you're plugging into the 'Active' input before setting the gain. Also, if your combo is the RC210, be aware that this doesn't handle the low b very well and you'll get better results running into a 15" cab, or, barring that, try cutting some of the low frequencies...

    good luck, and lemme know if it works out for you...

    -robert
     
  10. rickbass

    rickbass Supporting Member

    As for the farting, Carvin 15"s don't handle a B string, IME, so you can expect less from your Carvin 10"s unless you back off the Gain/Bass Boost/EQ/Low freq amp of the R head.

    As for the noise gate, see the knob with "Gate" above it??? Don't worry - it's useless anyway unless you like your volume to peak and dip like crazy.
     
  11. yawnsie

    yawnsie

    Apr 11, 2000
    London
    Seeing as this is on the same subject as the other thread, I'm merging them together.
     
  12. im not sure if thats the problem. could i have a cracked cabinet or something? is there a way to get it fixed and if there is how much will it cost me
    (if you cant tell this is my first amp that doesnt consist of one speaker and a couple nobs :)
     
  13. seansbrew

    seansbrew Supporting Member

    Oct 23, 2000
    Mesa AZ.
    Is this a new cab? Is there still time to send it back? If so do it. I went through 2 carvin 4x10s ( horn didn't work) and 2 R1000 heads (tube emulater didn't work,crossover didn't work ) before I got equipment that worked, and even then I was not able to dial in anything that sounded good . Their bass amps are no good.(just my opinion) The only thing good I can say about Carvin is that they gave me my money back.
     
  14. Hategear

    Hategear Workin' hard at hardly workin'.

    Apr 6, 2001
    Appleton, Swissconsin
    That Acousta-Stuf looks similar to what's in my cabs now -- is it?

    Peavey 1x15 and Sonic 6x10.