I changed my mind, now Im totally stuck

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by KaizerWilhelm, Jul 23, 2009.

  1. KaizerWilhelm

    KaizerWilhelm

    Mar 11, 2009
    Seattle, WA
    Hey y'all, earlier this year I asked y'all which Ampeg rig I should get, but now I think Im regretting my decision to consider ONLY Ampeg :meh:. But I've now realized that Ampeg is not the end all and be all of amplification.

    I want a tone mid focused tone with powerful highs. I also am looking for a subtle growl all the way through the range. As long as the lows are not overpowering the mids and highs Im happy. :D

    Please give me amp and cab suggestions. And if pre's are a part of the rig, so be it!

    Thanks in advance
     
  2. MIJ-VI

    MIJ-VI Inactive Supporting Member

    Jan 12, 2009
    Have tried any GK RB series amps?

    The 2001 RB, 1001 RB-II, and the 700 RB-II all support GK's horn bi-amp system as do GK's Neo Series cabs.
     
  3. KaizerWilhelm

    KaizerWilhelm

    Mar 11, 2009
    Seattle, WA
    I tried the 1001 and I liked it, but I didn't get the tone I wanted. Granted it was in GC and I only got to play for 10 min and not very loud either.
     
  4. MIJ-VI

    MIJ-VI Inactive Supporting Member

    Jan 12, 2009
    If you get a chance to you might want to test a complete GK rig.

    If you can, do a rent-to-buy deal with a local store so you can crank 'er up at a rehearsal or gig.

    Your description of your tonal goals sounds like you play aggressive music. Do you?
     
  5. Kaizer, given your location I'd recommend spending an hour or two at Bass Northwest. Good folks there, and they carry a variety of inventory that will let you experiment. The biggest lesson I've learned over the years is that - regardless of gear...instruments, amps, cabs, whatever - all of this is subjective. What emphasizes mids and growl with my playing style may not work for you, and vice versa. Go check out everything you can and find what does it for you. Good luck...
     
  6. Thunderfunk / Bag End combo might suit you...
     
  7. eyeballkid

    eyeballkid

    Jul 19, 2009
    actually what you describe sounds like an Ampeg tone...they are not the be all end all... but damn they can be nice... perhaps you got the wrong model... the svt3,4,and 6 dont do it for me.. the svt 450 the svt-cl and the v4bh all would do ya good...
     
  8. akaTRENT

    akaTRENT

    Jan 10, 2009
    New Jersey
    aguilar?
     
  9. rpsands

    rpsands

    Jul 6, 2007
    Having experienced an LDS cab, I just don't think commercial cabs are worth buying, period. For the price of a mid-road crappy commercial cabinet you can get something that is superior to or at least comparable to even the best of the best in bass cabinets.

    For a mid-focused sound like that, I would ask Don @ LDS to build you a 2x12 with a pair of 3012HOs, an 18 sound 6nd410, and an XD125 horn.

    For an amp to go along with it, I would suggest a Mesa M6 carbine. I played one of these at GC recently and it is absolutely the punchiest amp in its price range I've ever heard. Tons of mids and lots of OOMPH flat.
     
  10. You might really like the Bergantino AE410 or the Genz Benz Uber 410 for "I want a tone mid focused tone with powerful highs. I also am looking for a subtle growl all the way through the range. As long as the lows are not overpowering the mids and highs Im happy"

    For heads, Genz Benz is a pretty nice choice for your requirements, so I hear.
     
  11. Wes Whitmore

    Wes Whitmore

    Mar 10, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Its a combination of amp, cab, and bass. My gk1001rbII doesn't give me that growl (at least not the level that I consider enough) with stock rbh cabs. I get different amounts with different cabs. You need a cab that actually produces midrange...
     
  12. PSPookie

    PSPookie

    Aug 13, 2006
    Albuquerque, NM
    This is the best suggestion I've read so far.

    There have been several recommendations and they're all quite different. They're probably all 'correct' too because it's a subjective question. Let your ears tell you what's what.

    FWIW the Ampeg V4BH/Bag end rig I was using for a while seems to fit your description pretty well, IMO.
     
  13. KaizerWilhelm

    KaizerWilhelm

    Mar 11, 2009
    Seattle, WA
    That's what Im probablly gonna do when I get back home, Im in Houston now, visiting my family. All the stuff BassNW has, though, changes regularly, I guess I'll just need to go often...

    Thanks, y'all. Keep 'em comin' if you have any other suggestions.
     
  14. Neatcirrus

    Neatcirrus

    Oct 8, 2007
    chicago
    If you have some cash to spend go with the Thunderfunk 750 that thing is amazing. YOu can get any kind of tone out of it and its so clean no buzz no humm just your bass. Its the hottest bass amp in the mid west right now!
     
  15. Tim1

    Tim1

    Sep 9, 2005
    New Zealand
    You could consider a Markbass, GK or Genz Benz with a VT pedal. This would allow you to use the amp "straight" and also to kick in the VT when you want as close as you will ever get to to a variey of Ampeg amps and tones. The VT pedal is the only pedal I have ever owned which is always on and in my signal chain with my Markbass head, it really seems to do the goods with most any transistor amp.
     
  16. SteveC

    SteveC Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Nov 12, 2004
    NE ND
    If I lived close to BassNW, I'd be divorced. Go Greta suggestion. Go try and then buy.
     
  17. paganjack

    paganjack

    Dec 25, 2007
    Los Angeles, CA
    +1
    I think you should try out a Mesa. Mid-snarl and plenty of highs, especially in the carbine series. The M6& M9 are just plain beastly amps. If you've got the scratch to pay for it it may suit your needs/desires.
     
  18. RickenBoogie

    RickenBoogie

    Jul 22, 2007
    Dallas, TX
    Obviously, looking for advice on what amp will make you happy didn't work out too well the 1st time. I see no reason why it should work this time either. The only way to find a suitable amp and speakers is to demo them with your own bass, and use your own ears. All this other stuff is just a waste of time, and your money. Plenty of information to be found here, but actual expirience is what you need. I suggest you go amp shopping.
     
  19. Tim1

    Tim1

    Sep 9, 2005
    New Zealand
    +1 what RickenBoogie said.