I was at a friends house playing. He had this old out of tune Epiphone bass. The action was set waaaay to high, the pickups sounded like crap. Yet, I tried to play it, and couldn't it was horrible, the bass is almost unplayable. Two other people were there and think I suck, I guess. I play alot in my free time. I am pretty desent, and I can't stand playing bad in front of folks. So I had to come home play my Ibanez wich sounds much better. My friend knew that the bass, was messed up though.