I just watched Steve Miller playing a live gig... and he has a dude playing keyboard bass.

Discussion in 'Miscellaneous [BG]' started by DrayMiles, Dec 13, 2016.

  1. DrayMiles


    Feb 24, 2007
    East Coast
    There's a dude singing harmonies, 2 guitars, and a dude playing keys and keyboard bass?!?

    Why? Does anyone know anything about this? I mean, STEVE MILLER and all bass is a sample? It's Austin City Limits I see...

    Even a huge portion of, what I consider essential riffs on those songs are missing somewhat...

  2. DrayMiles


    Feb 24, 2007
    East Coast
    Ok, the other guitarist is playing bass on Fly like an eagle...
  3. mrpackerguy

    mrpackerguy Supporting Member

    Jul 3, 2004
    Madison, Wisconsin
    Austin city limits. Yea, made me wanna puke
  4. Ross W. Lovell

    Ross W. Lovell

    Oct 31, 2015

    That's okay......I saw Steve Winwood and there was NO bass!

    There was a saxophonist who sometimes played a bass sax.

    Steve also was playing a B3 and his feet were moving faster than Rabbitt Bundrick with The Who the date after Entwhistle died.

    Interesting to hear Winwood with this setup.

    Didn't miss it. Was waiting to hear that I would, but never happened.

    Let the whipping begin....
  5. buldog5151bass

    buldog5151bass Kibble, milkbones, and P Basses. And redheads.

    Oct 22, 2003
    Organ pedal bass can be pretty amazing.
  6. two fingers

    two fingers Opinionated blowhard. But not mad about it. Inactive

    Feb 7, 2005
    Eastern NC USA
    Funny thing is it was probably Joseph Wooten playing keys (Victor's brother). I don't know if he's still with them but he was for years.
  7. jerry

    jerry Too old for a hiptrip Gold Supporting Member

    Dec 13, 1999
    It was Joseph on Austin City Limits with Miller.
  8. two fingers

    two fingers Opinionated blowhard. But not mad about it. Inactive

    Feb 7, 2005
    Eastern NC USA
    Reattach player and a great guy. (Everyone in that family is just so nice.) But I have never seen him cover bass on keys. The two times I saw the band live they had a bass player.
  9. DrayMiles


    Feb 24, 2007
    East Coast
    It just looks disconcerting... I wonder what logistics cause this deviation from the norm? What could be the added expenditure of having a dedicated bassist in Steve Miller's case?
  10. DrayMiles


    Feb 24, 2007
    East Coast
    Historically with Winwood it makes sense... to me anyway.. :)
    Last edited: Dec 14, 2016
  11. Radio


    Jan 8, 2010
    New Haven, CT
    Barbara Dennerlein kicking the sticks:

    That box on top of her B-3 takes a midi signal from the pedals and makes them sound like a double bass.
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  12. brianrost

    brianrost Gold Supporting Member

    Apr 26, 2000
    Boston, Taxachusetts
    During the long stretches when Traffic was a trio, it was the same. Chris Wood would play the organ when Winwood was on guitar. Over the entire history of that band, they never had a steady bassist.

    We all know why bands drop the bass player: $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ Expenses are up, revenues are down. Neither Steve Miller or Steve Winwood is cranking out big hits or playing arenas as a headliner any more.

    I've seen it happen with local bands, where choosing between staying a a quartet making $75 each vs. becoming a trio making $100 each is a heartbreaking decision. I was once in a sextet...female vocalist, guitar/vocals/BL, bass, drums, two horns and sometimes if the pay was good we added a piano. When the female vocalist dropped out to have a baby, the clubs we were working in wouldn't book us any more even though the guitarist could handle vocals for the night. To keep working at all, the guitarist pared it down to a trio. :banghead:
  13. DirtDog


    Jun 7, 2002
    The Deep North
    Saw SM live (with a bass player) years ago. Hands down most boring show I've ever been to!

    Last time I saw Jimmy Vaughan, he was touring without a bass player. Bass was covered by the left hand of the guy playing a Hammond B3. Sounded pretty sweet.
  14. jerry

    jerry Too old for a hiptrip Gold Supporting Member

    Dec 13, 1999
    He sad thing is, I always remember Miller touring with a badass bassist like Gerald Johnson.
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  15. I saw the same episode of ASL. Maybe the bass-dude was barfing up bad Mexi-feast backstage and couldn't stand up long enough to do the gig? Otherwise, yeah....can the backing vox dude and get a real bassist-at least for one televised gig. Wow.
  16. tycobb73


    Jul 23, 2006
    Grand Rapids MI
    If it sounded good who cares
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  17. DrayMiles


    Feb 24, 2007
    East Coast
    The sound was okay... I think cutting corners like that is horrible... I mean, $500 to $1000 a gig wouldn't hurt him... IMO...
  18. wintremute

    wintremute mediocrity at its finest

    Oct 16, 2014
    Endorsing Artist: Langstrom Carrot Farms
    Maybe something happened and the bassist just couldn't play at the last minute. These guys are such pro-level musicians that they just adjusted and on with the show. You should call Mr. Miller and ask him.
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  19. mellowinman

    mellowinman Free Man

    Oct 19, 2011
    One thing I'm proud of is Steve Miller has never asked me not to play bass so he could use a keyboard player.
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  20. Charley Umbria

    Charley Umbria I'm Really a Drummer

    Jan 28, 2011
    Rock City, TN
    While I would've preferred an actual bass player, I've got to give Joseph Wooten props. It was almost schizophrenic at times watching him play a decent bass line with his left hand and a legit organ part with his right, both with different feels.

    EDIT: As to the question of why Miller didn't use a real bass player, the answer may lie in the fact that 90% of the audience probably didn't realize that he hadn't! :sorry: