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I need help from you Fender "experts"....

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by Mktrat, Oct 6, 2015.


  1. Mktrat

    Mktrat Seriously, are we not doing phrasing anymore? Supporting Member

    Apr 9, 2013
    The Mitten
    I can't figure out how to search this so I'll just ask.


    I want to get a 1979 P bass (birth year bass) My question is: Did Fender still make maple fretless boards in 79 or am I chasing a Unicorn? Also was sherwood green available?
     
  2. I imagine the fretboard won't be difficult to find... but, "Sherwood Green," on the other hand... :confused:
     
  3. danosix

    danosix

    May 30, 2012
    79 is a bad year for anything out of the ordinary. That was about when CBS was leaving and they trimmed the line pretty sharply. There are a lot of things in the Fender catalogue of 78-80 that only exist in the catalogue as they were cutting back production drastically and so they folcused on Teles, Strats, Fretted Ps and Js. I just looked up Fenders Japan catalogue (this is pre-japan production - so its the catalog for what Fender was sending to Japan) and the Fretless isn't even in it.
    Unless you have a sentimental reason for that model, it's really kind of a bad idea to have a fretless maple fretboard since they wear and the poly finish ("Thick-Skin") does not repair well. They do have a REALLY cool look, but...
    Definitely NOT Sherwood green - Natural, or Sunburst, or Black possibly Walnut - but unlikely.
    EDIT - just found the American 79 Catalog - no Fretless. 1and to reiterate, they were selling FEWER variations than were in the catalog right about then, not more. Seriously - some say the Lead I is a legend...
     
  4. Mktrat

    Mktrat Seriously, are we not doing phrasing anymore? Supporting Member

    Apr 9, 2013
    The Mitten

    Awww NUTS!!
     
  5. Mktrat

    Mktrat Seriously, are we not doing phrasing anymore? Supporting Member

    Apr 9, 2013
    The Mitten
    Maybe a '79 sherwood green fretted jazz?
     
  6. danosix

    danosix

    May 30, 2012
    Fender NEVER made a Fretless JAzz in the 70s - so that's a rainbow coloured Pegasus unicorn! (or more accurately, a Sherwood Green one - 'cause that's even rarer than rainbow - that was a rare colour during the "custom colour" era).
    Warmoth could make you the bass you want right quick (and much cheaper than rare vintage) - but it won't be a birth year bass).
     
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  7. Mktrat

    Mktrat Seriously, are we not doing phrasing anymore? Supporting Member

    Apr 9, 2013
    The Mitten
    I did type F-R-E-T-T-E-D sherwood green jazz. :D
     
  8. danosix

    danosix

    May 30, 2012
    OOPS, sorry. So it's only a Sherwood Green Unicorn - not a Pegasus Unicorn.
    But don't FRET. You'll find something you like.
     
  9. The Bass Clef

    The Bass Clef “the brian” Gold Supporting Member

    Nov 17, 2010
    Southern California
    Sherwood Green wasn't an option after 1966.. shoulda been born earlier. ;)
     
  10. Mktrat

    Mktrat Seriously, are we not doing phrasing anymore? Supporting Member

    Apr 9, 2013
    The Mitten
    DAMN!!!!!

    So what colors were available? Besides red/black/white/natural/sunburst?
     
  11. The Bass Clef

    The Bass Clef “the brian” Gold Supporting Member

    Nov 17, 2010
    Southern California
    They also had walnut/mocha, the red was actually called "wine" and was a translucent burgundy color, and brown Sunburst (brown around the edges instead of black). By the early 80s though, they started the "international color" series and several new colors were available.
     
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  12. danosix

    danosix

    May 30, 2012
    I forgot about the "wine" - almost had one of those too.
    Yeah the "natural" colours were popular at the time (or at least emphasized by Fender) so you had
    2 colour Sunburst, tobacco sunburst (though I've never seen it on a bass), Walnut, Wine, Natural, White and Black. I'm not even sure if I've seen a late 70s bass in a solid red. The colour selection and production of less common colours was even more constrained on basses.
    You might find a desert sand - essentially Telecaster Blonde but non-opaque - (no woodgrain visible) "student bass" - mustang or musicmaster from 79 - though again, I don't think the musicmaster even existed at that point - and I think the Bullet was launched in 80 or 81 (they were American first for a short run).
    If they do go back to 79, the bullet bass is pretty cool - it's essentially a cross between a first version P-Bass (tele-bass style) and a mustang. Cool and unique looking and good sound. Very different from a custom colour Jazz, but still...
     
  13. danosix

    danosix

    May 30, 2012
    Did you see the new G&L limited editions? Emerald Green Metallic. PRetty sweet - matched headstocks very pretty colour. They are clearly not birth-year basses, but they are commemorating 35 years (so 1980) - so it can be the anniversary of your 1st birthday (or something...).
    And while they are not vintage, PBass guys love the L100 - essentially a PBass with a G&L Bridge and G&L quality - which (and I'm a fan of CBS basses) is a LOT higher than a 79 Fender is likely to be, even if it's hasn't been beaten up over the last 36 years.
    EDIT - and it has a much of Leo's funk on it as any late 70s Fender too - Leo hadn't owned Fender for almost 15 years at that point and that's only a little less than how long he's been gone and these do celebrate the founding of the company.
    Sounds like I'm trying to sell you one of these... I'm really not, just though you might be interested in it because of the colour and the Fendery-ness of them.
    EDIT G&L Celebrates 35 Years With New Anniversary Collection | TalkBass.com
     
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  14. Caca de Kick

    Caca de Kick Supporting Member

    Nov 18, 2002
    Seattle / Tacoma
    I'd recommend a '79 StingRay bass, these are killer, and built by Leo.
     
  15. danosix

    danosix

    May 30, 2012
    Yeah, that's the obvious choice if one wants a "Leo" bass from 79 - of course, VERY different from a P or a J and likely to be a lot more money than a 79 Fender - though money may not be an issue for the OP.
     
  16. Mktrat

    Mktrat Seriously, are we not doing phrasing anymore? Supporting Member

    Apr 9, 2013
    The Mitten

    If and it's a BIG if, I was to by a pseudo birthyearish replica type bass thing it would probably be a Lakland. But I do not currently own a G&L so i guess it could be an option.


    But can I get Sherwood Green? (or close to it)
     
  17. Caca de Kick

    Caca de Kick Supporting Member

    Nov 18, 2002
    Seattle / Tacoma
    No.
    And if you saw the Fender response from TheBrian up top, you can't from Fender either. So unless you refinish something, you're not getting green.
     
  18. Mktrat

    Mktrat Seriously, are we not doing phrasing anymore? Supporting Member

    Apr 9, 2013
    The Mitten
    Yup no green Fender. Check.

    No Green Stingray either?!?!?!?!

    This is not working out.
     
  19. Mktrat

    Mktrat Seriously, are we not doing phrasing anymore? Supporting Member

    Apr 9, 2013
    The Mitten
    Ok. Let's try this again what was AVAILABLE in FREAKING SHERWOOD-ISH GREEN in 1979?

    :laugh::roflmao::laugh::roflmao::laugh::roflmao::laugh::roflmao::laugh:
     
  20. danosix

    danosix

    May 30, 2012
    Like I said, I wouldn't ordinarily suggest something that far from what you asked (I hate when people do that), but one of your key ingredients was Sherwood Green and the G&Ls are Emerald Green (which is REAL close) and so I just justified some of the other ways that these are sort-of what you wanted.
     

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