Hey everyone, I have a good number of effects and I was told that the "professional" way of dealing with effects, was to put them all before the input and ignore the effects loop, so my question is this, if I do that, then what would be the best way to put these pedals in order that they all sound the best they can my pedals are: BOSS FZ-2 HYPER FUZZ BOSS ODB-3 BASS OVERDRIVE BOSS PH-2 SUPER PHASER BOSS FL-2 FLANGER BOSS SYB-3 BASS SYNTH BOSS CEB-3 BASS CHORUS BOSS TR-2 TREMOLO BOSS OC-2 DUAL OCTAVE IBANEZ DE-7 DELAY/ECHO any suggestions would be GREAT!!
Usually this is the best order: distortion FX compressor/limiter "signal" FX like synth, octaver, etc. volume pedals, or tremolo FX modulation FX (phaser, flanger, chorus, delay) Oh, and the noise reduction belongs at the end, but I'd put it in front of modulation FX. That way it doesn't cut off delay or reverb trails.
Here's the first combo I'd try: BOSS ODB-3 BASS OVERDRIVE BOSS FZ-2 HYPER FUZZ BOSS OC-2 DUAL OCTAVE BOSS SYB-3 BASS SYNTH BOSS FL-2 FLANGER BOSS PH-2 SUPER PHASER BOSS CEB-3 BASS CHORUS BOSS TR-2 TREMOLO Hum Eliminator IBANEZ DE-7 DELAY/ECHO The general "rule of thumb" type order JMX posted is a good rule to follow. I've used stuff similar to most of the effects listed, but haven't used a bass synth with my gear so I'm not sure where to put it. The FZ-2 and ODB-3 can be rotated depending on which is the harder distortion, which I would put behind the lighter distortion.
I would first like to say, "Holy Moly, are you a guitar player or what?! That's a lot of effects!" Ahem... anyway, Boss makes an informative pamphlet/advertisement that deals with effect placement. There, I read that "dyanmics sensitive" effects, such as octavers and envelope filters (which i guess the synth would classify as) should be placed first, THEN distortions, etc. I would put the chorus before the echo and after the compressor. You can probably make a plethora of unusual sounds with all of your effects. I was just thinking about getting a fuzz box in addition to my odb-3 this morning, but I think I'll just leave that to you. Have fun
Thank you all soo much for all this info!! It is really helping me out!! oh and bassbrobrad, hehe, I use all these effects cuz I play in electronic type bands, and my approach to the bass is to NOT make it sound like a bass, when you think you are hearing keyboards, it is me on bass, when you think you are hearing guitar, it is me on bass, and when you think you are hearing bass drums, it is me!
BOSS ODB-3 BASS OVERDRIVE BOSS FZ-2 HYPER FUZZ BOSS SYB-3 BASS SYNTH BOSS OC-2 DUAL OCTAVE BOSS TR-2 TREMOLO BOSS CEB-3 BASS CHORUS BOSS PH-2 SUPER PHASER BOSS FL-2 FLANGER IBANEZ DE-7 DELAY/ECHO ...Best way I can think of to chain them up usually effects go: EQ > Comp/Lim > sonic tools> Overdrive > Envelope filter > Pitch shift > LFO > Modulation, that's the best way they work for me, but you can experiment allot with a chain like that.
Yay! Another synth basser on TB, no keyboard will ever take the place of a bass, but do you really need that many pedals to get synth sounds?
nope, bigfeet, I don't need all those pedals for bass synth sounds, but I do need them all for spacey sounds!!! I like more of a atmospheric sound(combinations of pedals) than just using some synth, I use my synth more often than not in combination with my Hyper Fuzz for some EXTREME FUZZINESS!!!!!
I'm more of an industrial player then electronic, I'll tune to a keyboard scale on my bass (tuned to A). I use envelope filters allot with my Bass Micro Synth to get cherpy baritone R2-D2 sounds, or just lightly distort my signal when locked in with the kickdrum it gets really gnarly sounds. I might add a DBX subharmonic bass synth to put more lows in my synth sounds (damned G.A.S.), I really try keep my lines more solid.
I use a boss syb3, a boss dd5, and a tonesucking(fixable, but im lazy) vintage jen italian wah(if any of you know anything about wahs, you know what im talkin about). Im gonna get an mxr micro amp to give my wah some more bottom end. anyway. I got my dd5 (delay) modified by mike piera (analogman.com). he put a switch on it that kills the dry sound, and only plays the wet sound, to be used for the reverse delay mode. so basically, you can play backwards. now, tweak them all to your specs, and play chameleon by herbie hancock. Damn. it sounds cool.
Jesus, man! You must look like you're doing the Curly Shuffle up there! Is there ever a point where you feel like a one-legged man in an ass-kicking contest?
so do you ever use your clean sound? if you do I would seriously consider an A/B box to bypass all those effects, otherwise you might fall down due to loss of balance....