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I need help in figuring out a good order for these, can someone help???

Discussion in 'Effects [BG]' started by DeathPOPbass, Oct 14, 2001.


  1. DeathPOPbass

    DeathPOPbass

    Sep 11, 2000
    Hey everyone, I have a good number of effects and I was told that the "professional" way of dealing with effects, was to put them all before the input and ignore the effects loop, so my question is this, if I do that, then what would be the best way to put these pedals in order that they all sound the best they can :)

    my pedals are:
    BOSS FZ-2 HYPER FUZZ
    BOSS ODB-3 BASS OVERDRIVE
    BOSS PH-2 SUPER PHASER
    BOSS FL-2 FLANGER
    BOSS SYB-3 BASS SYNTH
    BOSS CEB-3 BASS CHORUS
    BOSS TR-2 TREMOLO
    BOSS OC-2 DUAL OCTAVE
    IBANEZ DE-7 DELAY/ECHO

    any suggestions would be GREAT!!:D :D :D
     
  2. DeathPOPbass

    DeathPOPbass

    Sep 11, 2000
    and i forget one, where should my Hum Eliminator go??? :p
     
  3. JMX

    JMX Vorsprung durch Technik

    Sep 4, 2000
    Cologne, Germany
    Usually this is the best order:

    • distortion FX
    • compressor/limiter
    • "signal" FX like synth, octaver, etc.
    • volume pedals, or tremolo FX
    • modulation FX (phaser, flanger, chorus, delay)

    Oh, and the noise reduction belongs at the end, but I'd put it in front of modulation FX. That way it doesn't cut off delay or reverb trails.
     
  4. Nails

    Nails

    Jun 4, 2000
    Austin, Tejas
    Here's the first combo I'd try:

    BOSS ODB-3 BASS OVERDRIVE
    BOSS FZ-2 HYPER FUZZ
    BOSS OC-2 DUAL OCTAVE
    BOSS SYB-3 BASS SYNTH
    BOSS FL-2 FLANGER
    BOSS PH-2 SUPER PHASER
    BOSS CEB-3 BASS CHORUS
    BOSS TR-2 TREMOLO
    Hum Eliminator
    IBANEZ DE-7 DELAY/ECHO

    The general "rule of thumb" type order JMX posted is a good rule to follow. I've used stuff similar to most of the effects listed, but haven't used a bass synth with my gear so I'm not sure where to put it. The FZ-2 and ODB-3 can be rotated depending on which is the harder distortion, which I would put behind the lighter distortion.
     
  5. Brad Barker

    Brad Barker Supporting Member

    Apr 13, 2001
    berkeley, ca
    I would first like to say, "Holy Moly, are you a guitar player or what?! That's a lot of effects!"

    Ahem...

    anyway, Boss makes an informative pamphlet/advertisement that deals with effect placement. There, I read that "dyanmics sensitive" effects, such as octavers and envelope filters (which i guess the synth would classify as) should be placed first, THEN distortions, etc. I would put the chorus before the echo and after the compressor.

    You can probably make a plethora of unusual sounds with all of your effects. I was just thinking about getting a fuzz box in addition to my odb-3 this morning, but I think I'll just leave that to you.

    Have fun
     
  6. DeathPOPbass

    DeathPOPbass

    Sep 11, 2000
    Thank you all soo much for all this info!! It is really helping me out!!:D :)

    oh and bassbrobrad, hehe, I use all these effects cuz I play in electronic type bands, and my approach to the bass is to NOT make it sound like a bass, when you think you are hearing keyboards, it is me on bass, when you think you are hearing guitar, it is me on bass, and when you think you are hearing bass drums, it is me! :D
     
  7. BOSS ODB-3 BASS OVERDRIVE
    BOSS FZ-2 HYPER FUZZ
    BOSS SYB-3 BASS SYNTH
    BOSS OC-2 DUAL OCTAVE
    BOSS TR-2 TREMOLO
    BOSS CEB-3 BASS CHORUS
    BOSS PH-2 SUPER PHASER
    BOSS FL-2 FLANGER
    IBANEZ DE-7 DELAY/ECHO

    ...Best way I can think of to chain them up usually effects go: EQ > Comp/Lim > sonic tools> Overdrive > Envelope filter > Pitch shift > LFO > Modulation, that's the best way they work for me, but you can experiment allot with a chain like that.
     
  8. :eek:Yay! Another synth basser on TB, no keyboard will ever take the place of a bass, but do you really need that many pedals to get synth sounds?:D
     
  9. Slater

    Slater Bye Millen! Hello?

    Apr 17, 2000
    The Great Lakes State
    Your SYB-3 and OC-2 will work best if you put them first.
     
  10. DeathPOPbass

    DeathPOPbass

    Sep 11, 2000
    nope, bigfeet, I don't need all those pedals for bass synth sounds, but I do need them all for spacey sounds!!! I like more of a atmospheric sound(combinations of pedals) than just using some synth, I use my synth more often than not in combination with my Hyper Fuzz for some EXTREME FUZZINESS!!!!! :D
     
  11. I'm more of an industrial player then electronic, I'll tune to a keyboard scale on my bass (tuned to A). I use envelope filters allot with my Bass Micro Synth to get cherpy baritone R2-D2 sounds, or just lightly distort my signal when locked in with the kickdrum it gets really gnarly sounds. I might add a DBX subharmonic bass synth to put more lows in my synth sounds (damned G.A.S.), I really try keep my lines more solid.
     
  12. I use a boss syb3, a boss dd5, and a tonesucking(fixable, but im lazy) vintage jen italian wah(if any of you know anything about wahs, you know what im talkin about). Im gonna get an mxr micro amp to give my wah some more bottom end. anyway. I got my dd5 (delay) modified by mike piera (analogman.com). he put a switch on it that kills the dry sound, and only plays the wet sound, to be used for the reverse delay mode. so basically, you can play backwards. now, tweak them all to your specs, and play chameleon by herbie hancock. Damn. it sounds cool.
     
  13. Hategear

    Hategear Workin' hard at hardly workin'.

    Apr 6, 2001
    Appleton, Swissconsin
    Jesus, man! You must look like you're doing the Curly Shuffle up there!

    Is there ever a point where you feel like a one-legged man in an ass-kicking contest? :D
     
  14. SONICATTACK

    SONICATTACK

    Sep 26, 2001
    in the sun
    so do you ever use your clean sound? if you do I would seriously consider an A/B box to bypass all those effects, otherwise you might fall down due to loss of balance....:p