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I ordered, payed with Swell pedal company, and never received anything!!!

Discussion in 'Effects [BG]' started by BiigM, Jan 10, 2013.

  1. BiigM


    Nov 11, 2007
    Edit: I just received a USPS notice today that MikeO shipped a pedal to me.

    So he did come through in the end it seems, even though communication was absolutely horrifying.

    Hi all.

    I usually would never go public with something like this. But I don't want anyone else to loose their money so here goes.

    The following is a Facebook message I wrote the owner of Swell Pedal Company: I have edited my email and name out for this:

    Hello Mike.

    I'm writing you because of an order I made with your company Swell Pedal Company.

    Let me fill you in:

    May 1st: Payed 409,97$ through paypal.

    June 22nd: Asked for an update via Mail. No answer!

    July 5th: Asked again for an update via your Webform. Recieved answer that it would be 2 more weeks. Wrote you back that that was fine.

    September 6th: Write you again since the pedal still isn't here. I ask for refund if it is not done yet. No answer from you!

    October 27th: I once again ask if the pedal is on it's way. If not please refund my money.

    October 29th: I receive an apologetic mail from you stating that the pedal will be shipping within that week.

    November 23rd: I still didn't receieve any pedal, so I mail you again, asking you to confrim you shipped it, and ask you to give me a shipping number. No answer!

    Ca November 25th: I write the same mail as two days before, but this time through you web form. No answer!

    November 30th: I write via mail, again asking for my money back. No answer!

    I suggest you search you spam. My mail is xxxxxxx.

    Even if some of this didn't reach you, you have answered mails from you web form before I payed and once since.

    I even tried phoning you, with no luck.

    I suggest you pay me my money back. I am not interested in the Pedal anymore. I guess you can pay it to my paypal with the address xxxxxxx

    Please respond to this ASAP. I would hate doing it, but I will feel obliged to post the above on talkbass, basschat, thegearpage, etc. if I don't hear from you, to inform my fellow musicians about the "wait times" and response level.

    Best regards

  2. jobo4


    Apr 19, 2006
    Austin, TX
    Ouch. 4 bills and no pedal? Ouch. Thanks for the heads up on these criminals.
  3. arthur31686

    arthur31686 Supporting Member

    Mar 7, 2011
    I always hate reading these stories. I don't think a lot of these failed boutique pedal companies started out with the intention of "stealing" from their customers. Irresponsibility and lack of experience caused them to dig a hole of impossible to fill orders and debt.

    I hope you find a resolution and I hope the other customers who have been holding off for months (like yourself) with hopes that the individuals at Swell will deliver their product or refund will speak up. You can only cut a small company a break so many times before you realize they're not going to deliver on their promise of delivering a product.
  4. BiigM


    Nov 11, 2007
    I don't think he started out wanting to cheat people either, but the end result is unfortunately the same.

    And yeah I actually think I cut him more than enough slack, but guys you can judge for yourself by reading my timeline above :)

    I just hope it will help others not making same mistake dealing with the company.
  5. scotch

    scotch It's not rocket science! Supporting Member

    Nov 12, 2006
    Albany, NY USA
    Please see Profile for Endorsement disclosures
    Man! Swell has really dropped the ball! I hope the op gets his mony back. Ridiculous! There's just no excuse for the scenario outlined above.
  6. VSR


    Mar 22, 2009
    You shouldn’t have waited for so long. I hope you find a solution.
  7. AaronMB


    Aug 17, 2012
    Central Oregon
    Is it too late for a charge back - or whatever it's called when the bank/credit card company gets involved? With all that documentation, it seems you'd have a strong leg to stand on.
  8. godblender

    godblender Banned Supporting Member

    Mar 11, 2009
  9. BiigM


    Nov 11, 2007
    I payed with PayPal, and I found out they have a 45 days politic. After that you are on your own :-(
  10. VSR


    Mar 22, 2009
    Don’t worry maybe someone comes up here and explains from a different perspective that this is only some bad luck…Otherwise I would not be confident to buy something from them. I’m sure there is some logical explanation.
  11. Man, that's really too bad, both for you and for Swell. I have a B-Pro that I love, but I got it used, so I guess I'm glad that I haven't had to deal with their customer service (yet).

    I hope you get this worked out!
  12. BiigM


    Nov 11, 2007
    If MikeO show up here saying sorry and gives me my cash back, everything is fine with me.
    I'm not going to hold on to a grudge.
    But given the opportunities he's had to answer, I'm not counting on that to happen.
  13. tink9975

    tink9975 Supporting Member

    Aug 10, 2006
    MoCo, MD
    Mike hasnt logged into Talkbass since July, might need to try and continue FB/Phone/email communications.

    Best of luck
  14. BiigM


    Nov 11, 2007
    As you see from my first post I've exhausted those options. He's not answering anything.
    Unless he as fallen of the earth, he must have gotten some of my various mails, through the different channels.
  15. Febs

    Febs Supporting Member

    May 7, 2007
    Philadelphia, PA
  16. Another excellent builder falls victim to their own success and inability to properly scope order taking. What a shame.
  17. BiigM


    Nov 11, 2007
    I will definitely look into that BBB site. thank you!
  18. N.F.A.


    Jun 25, 2009
    In a blue funk
    So sorry to hear about your problems. Also sorry to hear that Swell has become unreliable. I have toyed with buying their pedals, especially the Ampeg voiced one. No way I'd do that now.
    Thanks to the OP for the heads up.
  19. BiigM


    Nov 11, 2007
    I just wrote MikeO again on Facebook, to let him know I posted this thread.
    I want to be fair, and give him a chance to resolve it before his business suffers too much.
  20. Darknut

    Darknut Supporting Member

    Apr 4, 2009
    The Swell pedal company Facebook page hasn't be updated since July 2012 either?