get this... i work in a recording studio and i was letting a band in to do some stuff. and me and their bass player were talking gear and players and what not. we talked about hartke stuff, ashdown stuff, mesa stuff...etc. and then we moved on to talking about geddy lee and jeff berlin and jaco. well i told the guy i thought slap, all be it cool, was over rated. i also mentioned that i woudl like to work on tapping and get a better technique and all for that. so this guy laughs and says, "kid, if you ever want to get work, your gonna sit down shut the @&$^ up and play what the band leader gives you. jeff berlin is my friend and hes a great player, but he hasnt had work in 20 years because he wont do things other peoples way. if you want to do all that tapping youll have to go start your own band...." you see where its going. needless to say this doesnt make me happy. well then the guitar player showed up and started giving me even more grief. so i left. now given these two fellas have been playing longer than ive been alive, but they auditioning people for a cover band jam at the local bar-b-q pit. so that said, i really dont like it when semi washed up old musicians tell me how to play my bass. oh and not to mention in our conversation of bass players we not only mentioned the above but also stanley clark, michael manring and james jammerson. and both guys were like. "james jamerson is only bass player ive heard of that you just talked about." and both of these guys claimed to have gone to highschool with jaco (im in south florida so it could be true) so i mentioned michael had studied with jaco for a year. the guy replys, "yea jaco gave me some lessons, its not unheard of." i didnt get upset by the comment, but by his pious im better than you and that mike dude tone. oh well.