I was visiting an old friend yesterday and mentioned to him that I was looking to either buy a Hartke or and Ampeg rig. he showed me his hartke 3500 and offered it to me for $150. It's in near perfect condition and I think I would be silly to turn it down. now since i am saving so much on the head, i can get a better 4x10 cab. I'm gonna try either an Eden, Ampeg or Bag End.