i want something with tubes

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by downstairs, Sep 23, 2001.

  1. downstairs


    May 13, 2001
    Pasadena, MD
    Yes, i have a peavy Musician mark III, which is pretty nice, but i want something with tubes in the pre amps, where it'll clip and give me that nice tube sound, not the crappy distortion sound my amp has, and i'm starting to think (uh-oh), what amp would be a good deal to get that has a tube pre amp and a solid state power amp for relatively low amount of dollars?
  2. Nails


    Jun 4, 2000
    Austin, Tejas
    I think all Eden's have a tube preamp, and the EQ section on them is amazing......I've spent hours on end just playing with the EQ, but it's still really easy to get a good tone from it. But that may be from the fact that I've spent hours playing with it. But they aren't cheap, but it's possible to get a good deal on a used one.

    Now I'm just going to guess at facts, I'm not positive on any of this so don't hold it as the truth. But I think there are a few Ampegs that are hybrid (then there's the classic all tube Ampegs, but you said you wanted a solid state poweramp.)

    I think all of SWR's professional heads have tube preamps. Don't know about the Workingman or any of the combos.

    Those are the first three I can think of, and they're also three of the most discussed brands on here. Out of those three I prefer Eden, they work for me better than the others. But check out all of their websites, find what's in your price range then hit the music stores to try them out.
  3. FalsehoodBass


    Jul 22, 2001
    Denver, CO
    if you want a nice distortion, i don't think the eden is the way to go.. i would suggest the SWR Interstellar Overdrive, or the ampeg SVP pro.. Most of the other swr stuff is hi-fidelity, which means super clean, not very good at distorting well... and it seems the same with eden, although i haven't tried to push one that hard...
  4. downstairs


    May 13, 2001
    Pasadena, MD
    well, if i can get a good deal on an all-tube amp, it'd be awesome, but i really (really really ) don't wanna deal with the tubes. I don't know jack about tubes, I guess it'd be good to learn at some time, just help me, please.
  5. downstairs


    May 13, 2001
    Pasadena, MD
    oh yeah, i'm sorta looking in the $200-275 range
  6. FalsehoodBass


    Jul 22, 2001
    Denver, CO
    all the amps i mentioned were preamps.. you could get a solid state poweramp.. but in that price range.. i don't know what kind of tube setup you can get... anyone else have some advice?
  7. Lumpycat


    Sep 16, 2001
    Philadelphia PA
    Get a guitar head.
    If you want real tube growl don't mess around and play through a guitar head ( and a bass cabinet). The Marshall JCM 800 has a wonderfull sound if used with a bass. Lemmey has been using one for years. Lou Barlow era Dino Jr.? Well that was a guitar head as well. If you can't swing the Marshall find an old Ampeg V4 Guitar head, they sound killer through an SVT cabinet.

  8. Or better yet, find a V4-B. Same head, but made for bass.
  9. Lumpycat


    Sep 16, 2001
    Philadelphia PA
    The V4b is an excellent head, infact it's what I use these days. That head is as old as I am.

    But if you want growl get the V4 guitar head because it has that extra gain/ dirty channel.

    I used one for a number of years.

    Somebody check with Watt. When I saw them in Philly I swear he was using a JCM800 guitar head for the Fog tour.

  10. embellisher

    embellisher Holy Ghost filled Bass Player Staff Member Supporting Member

    You won't find tube sound in that price range, unless it is an old all tube head that needs major $$$ in rebuilding.
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    Me too!!!:D :rolleyes: :p

    .....hopefully she can cook and give a massage!! ;)
  12. downstairs


    May 13, 2001
    Pasadena, MD
    i remember, i had a KMD guitar head (solid state) and i loved the sound i got out of it, and now that i have a bass amp head (blew up the KMD), with a 6-band EQ, it pisses me off, i hate the sounds i get with it, i really should sell this and get a guitar head of some sort, like a nice crunchy crunchy one, or i'll be lucky and get an ampeg off of ebay for $150 like my friend brett.
  13. ZuluFunk

    ZuluFunk Supporting Member

    Apr 14, 2001
    Try a Hartke 3500. It has a tube and SS. You can adjust your signal on both. It's just over your price range new, but you may get a used one for that price.
  14. Luis Fabara

    Luis Fabara

    Aug 13, 2000
    Ecuador (South America)
    Audio Pro - Ecuador
    In my opinion, nothing with just 1 Tube in the Preamp, sound like a real All-Tube Preamp.

    Many manufacturers put 1 tube to atract customers and declare "Tube Warm" sound, wich in my experience its b....s..it..
  15. good amps with tubes in em hmm...

    Mesa Boogie,
    try them all.
  16. Comakazi


    May 3, 2001
    Midwest US

    Me too!!!:D :rolleyes: :p

    .....hopefully she can cook and give a massage!! ;) [/B][/QUOTE]

    That's good stuff!!!! LMAO!!!! :D
  17. two choices:

    1) save more

    2) get a sansamp BDDI. tube emulation circuitry. I sure as heck can't tell the difference from the real thing.
  18. downstairs


    May 13, 2001
    Pasadena, MD
    well, i don't have a job, so if i sell my amp, it'd be that money, and whatever my mom gives me.....*crosses fingers* i'll go for a tube preamp of some sort and a power amp, or i'll look for a hybrid guitar amp, they are nice, but i need something with a clip light in it.....
  19. JimM


    Jan 13, 2000
    Northern California
    I seem to remember hearing about a peavy head with a tube preamp section.Don't know what model it was,but if you could find a used one of those I doubt it would cost more than $300.00.
  20. Mr. Grieves

    Mr. Grieves

    Jul 16, 2001
    chicago, il
    '70s Ampeg V-4s and V-4Bs can be had for under $300. So can Music Man HD 130s and 150s. They are all tube heads, though some of the Music Man heads have a solid state preamp. All of them sound great! All are under 150 watts, but they'll be as loud as 300 to 350 solid state watts.

    The Sans Amp BDDI is also pretty cool, and will get you very close to that tube sound when run through an SS head. Heck, they're useful in their own right.