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Ideal gauges for extended range basses

Discussion in 'Strings [BG]' started by Gregory Bruce Campbell, Dec 1, 2004.


  1. Gregory Bruce Campbell

    Gregory Bruce Campbell

    Apr 14, 2002
    Helena, MT U.S.A 59602
    BEE basses, Morley pedals
    I have done some studies in the past with our good friend "GREENBOY"

    through him I gathered the information I needed to determine what I believe to be the ideal gages for extended range bass...

    through a series of averages and then matching them up with tolerances against what SIT has available...

    what I concluded by using GREENBOY's answers to my series of questions was that the "IDEAL" sets for the standard 4ths notes in use today by the majority of ERB are as follows...

    LIGHT ERB SET
    C# 0.189
    F# 0.153
    B 0.126
    E 0.095
    A 0.070
    D 0.053
    G 0.040
    C 0.029
    F 0.020
    Bb 0.015
    Eb 0.009

    MEDIUM ERB SET
    C# 0.200
    F# 0.163
    B 0.133
    E 0.101
    A 0.077
    D 0.060
    G 0.045
    C 0.034
    F 0.025
    Bb 0.017
    Eb 0.012

    HEAVY ERB SET
    C# 0.210
    F# 0.165
    B 0.145
    E 0.110
    A 0.085
    D 0.065
    G 0.050
    C 0.038
    F 0.028
    Bb 0.019
    Eb 0.014

    NOW, aligning these averages and statistics from my research through Greenboy...

    and let me say I am 90% sure he would disagree with "my" point of view...

    ;)

    anyway, I would suggest that an individual "TRY" each of the following gages, for each of the following notes...

    LOW C#: obviously SIT has only one string available for this note. So I would suggest and myself would use the .195

    LOW F#: obviously SIT has only one string available for this note. So I would suggest and myself would use the .165

    LOW B: (more traditional territory) I would suggest and myself would use and try each of the following: .125, .130, .135. I have a feeling that I would prefer the .135 as my low B string.

    LOW E: (getting into even MORE traditional territory) I would suggest and myself would use and try each of the following: .095, .100, .105, .110. I have a feeling that I would prefer the .110 as my low E string.

    A: I would suggest and myself would use and try each of the following: .070, .075, .080, .085 I have a feeling that I would prefer the .085 for my A string.

    D: I would suggest and myself would use and try each of the following: .050, .055, .060, .065 I have a feeling that I would prefer the .065 for my D string.

    G: I would suggest and myself would use and try each of the following: .040, .045, .050 I have a feeling that I would prefer the .045 for my G string.

    HIGH C: I would suggest and myself would use and try each of the following: .025, .030, .035, .040 I have a feeling that I would prefer the .030 for my HIGH C string.

    HIGH F: I would suggest and myself would use and try each of the following: .025, .030, .035, .040 I have a feeling that I would prefer the .030 for my HIGH F string.

    HIGH Bb: I would suggest and myself would use and try each of the following: .015, .016, .017, .018, .019 I have a feeling that I would prefer the .019 for my HIGH Bb string.

    Eddie made me some 21.5 CUSTOMS as an R&D experiment that I am excited to try for Bb, as the initial reason I chose to go with "fanned frets" was so that ALL my strings could be wound...

    HIGH Eb: I would suggest and myself would use and try each of the following: .009, .010, .011, .012, .013, .014, .015 I have a feeling that I would prefer the .015 for my HIGH Eb string.

    my bass is fanned fret and a shorter scale that I plan to experiment with these measurements on...

    I recommend that the rest of you "START" here:

    C# 0.195
    F# 0.165
    B 0.125
    E 0.095
    A 0.070
    D 0.050
    G 0.040
    C 0.025
    F 0.020
    Bb 0.015
    Eb 0.009
     
  2. GBC,

    I am going to try some of the gauges you suggest for my E-F tuning:

    E 0.095
    A 0.070
    D 0.050
    G 0.040
    C 0.025
    F 0.020

    My only question centers around figuring out if there are noticeable tension differences between standard strings and doubleball end. I don't think you have a headless but if you know anyone that has headless 6,7,8, or 9, I would be interested in hearing their opinions. :)
     
  3. Gregory Bruce Campbell

    Gregory Bruce Campbell

    Apr 14, 2002
    Helena, MT U.S.A 59602
    BEE basses, Morley pedals
    I do have one headless 4 string...

    i put daddario XLs on it in 1990, and they are still on it!


    ;)
     
  4. I take it that's a "closet bass? :)

    My Musicmaster and Carvin 5 feel their pain!

    I guess everyone gets relegated to the closet once you get "stung by the bee"!

    BTW, what are YOU bringing to NAMM? I've got to try your fanned fret Bee..............
     
  5. Gregory Bruce Campbell

    Gregory Bruce Campbell

    Apr 14, 2002
    Helena, MT U.S.A 59602
    BEE basses, Morley pedals
    awesome i hope to see you there!

    i'll have for sure prototype #2

    and hopefully prototype #1

    and BEE3
     
  6. Bassossorus

    Bassossorus

    Oct 21, 2004
    CHICAGO
    Where do you guys get your strings? Do any companies sell seven string sets? Thanks!