@NCD: I get what you're saying, completely. I am just a hair over 30 myself, and am familiar with Kansas to an extent (more radio-played Kansas anyway). After listening to the clips of the songs you mentioned, I get a feeling of where the original thrust of your comment came from regarding a bassist's role or even possibly, their take on the instrument these days. As a blanket statement, I guess it sounded generally like a busier role for rock bass (which I guess was your point from the start). Without going into what's popular these days, I would hazard a guess to say that things changed particularly because of genre changes, and evolving styles. Specifically in the second song you mentioned, I noticed an almost "funk" approach to some of the lines. I guess I would be the whipper-snapper to say that the popularity of some of these styles maybe just kind of fell off the map, due to new sounds (for better or worse). I would also say (if this was your point, then yes I am in agreement with), that bass has seemed to take on a different role in music. No longer is it really an up front type of instrument, rather than most of the time as a background pocket-glue. There are absolutely exceptions to this rule, and there still are great players getting their sound and style out there, but I would agree with previous comments that the hook is where it's at these days (again for better or worse). I play in a band with a few music snobs (particularly my lead singer ), and he talks of knowing the difference between something being "phoned in" or not. It took me a while to understand this idea, and even as pretentious as it sounded to me to label someone's music as "phoned in", it actually makes a lot of sense. The thing I guess you need to discern for yourself (meaning all of us) is what is good because it is simple, and what is lazy because it is simple. But I digress... Anyway, after realizing a bit more of where you are coming from interest-wise, I'm not so sure you'll find too much in my list that floats your boat. A lot of things that I posted are less bass-centric, but heavier on the overall "swagger" as I like to coin it. Maybe that reflects my opinion of what type of bass player I admire - "The pocket groover". Often times if the song catches me right, I know the bass is doing a huge part of that. Seemless music, rather than a collection of instruments. That being said - I really admire the rhythm sections in some of the bands I posted. I Love what Mew does, period - and Coheed and Cambria and Them Crooked Vultures have solid rhythm sections. (Then again Them Crooked Vultures is Dave Grohl / John Paul Jones so what else would you expect).