Identifying a SG Bass Body

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by JR Robertson, Aug 1, 2021.

  1. JR Robertson

    JR Robertson

    Aug 1, 2021
    Hello!

    I picked up a supposed Gibson SG Bass about 35 years ago from some guy who worked on guitars. It appears to have had a fair amount of work done on it and I'm guessing the only thing "Gibson" on it is probably the neck (doesn't quite match the body yet is glued on very nicely!) but am wondering what make the body might be. I've looked quite a bit on the interweb but haven't found anything....any guesses?

    Thanks!

    --JR
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  2. That pickup positions leads me to believe it may have started life as a Raven, or one of the Matsumoku SG copies that were sold in catalogues. Some were set-neck, some were actually bolt-on. They had a two-pickup model that looked like that. Most that I've seen though had the mini/mudbucker configuration.
     
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  3. Tubehed

    Tubehed

    Oct 27, 2011
    Westminister, CA
    That's a legit Gibson bass. I had the guitar equivalent in high school. The guitar model is SGII. Had the slide switches and top mount jack like yours. Badass bridges were stock, on the guitar, at least.
     
  4. badinage

    badinage Supporting Member

    May 25, 2021
    Looks a lot like a Gibson SB series too. I had a SB-450 once that was dark like that one in OP.

    1973 Gibson SB-450:
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    Also: Gibson SB-450
     
  5. Tubehed

    Tubehed

    Oct 27, 2011
    Westminister, CA
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    Here's the SG 2 guitar. Mine and every other one I've seen besides this one had a Badass on it, though.
     
  6. Tubehed

    Tubehed

    Oct 27, 2011
    Westminister, CA
    I think you nailed it!
     
  7. badinage

    badinage Supporting Member

    May 25, 2021
  8. JR Robertson

    JR Robertson

    Aug 1, 2021
    Cool--thanks for the info!
     
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  9. JTE

    JTE Gold Supporting Member

    Mar 12, 2008
    Central Illinois, USA
    The Badass was never installed at the Gibson factory. It was a very common mod however because it was pretty inexpensive, easy to do, didn't make irreversible changes, and solved a very real problem- pretty much everything the BA-IIbass bridge isn't.
     
  10. JR Robertson

    JR Robertson

    Aug 1, 2021
    Well, I'll be...! Thanks--I appreciate the information! It plays like silk, for sure...so the pedigree didn't really bother me, just curious. I'm too afraid to even take the pick-ups out lest I screw something up in it. It's only needed the intonation adjusted a couple times in the last 30+ years.
     
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  11. JR Robertson

    JR Robertson

    Aug 1, 2021
    Thanks very much everyone for the information! What took you so long??? <laughs!> I posted it, and like 20 minutes later I've got a wealth of information and numbers to investigate! MANY THANKS!

    --JR
     
  12. JR Robertson

    JR Robertson

    Aug 1, 2021
    The Badass was confusing me, for sure!
     
  13. Tubehed

    Tubehed

    Oct 27, 2011
    Westminister, CA
    Good to know. Like I said, every SG II I've encountered have all had the badass bridge on it. Not the bass. Hey, I knew it was a real Gibson bass, though. :D
     
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  14. badinage

    badinage Supporting Member

    May 25, 2021
    SB-350 is 30" scale. My SB-450 was 34" scale, and as such suffered from enough neck dive that I had a boot-lace sized leather thong on the endpin/strap that I'd tie around my thigh like a old-West six-shooter when standing to play. That fixed it.

    I sold mine a long time ago to a female bassist named Holly Harper. I'd buy it back. :)
     
  15. All Gibson, changed bridge like others have said. I had the 6-string guitar version for a while.
     
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  16. B-Mac

    B-Mac Happiness is a warm puppy and a great bass Supporting Member

    Hmmmm…why not ask the man who wrote the Gibson Bass Book? @Basvarken
    https://www.thegibsonbassbook.com/
     
  17. mikewalker

    mikewalker Supporting Member

    Jul 30, 2017
    Canada, Eh!
    I had the SG-II guitar back in the 70s, and just wanted to say that those black plastic molded mini-hb pickups are AWESOME... :)
     
  18. They sure are, I also had them on a '73 SG Special - the edition just after the P90 version. One of those instruments I really regret selling.
     
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  19. If it's short-scale it's SB-350, if it's long scale then SB-450.

    An early example (late '72 or very early '73) given the 2-point bridge which has nothing to do with Bada$$.

    The knobs are not stock, the rest looks completely correct.
     
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  20. JR Robertson

    JR Robertson

    Aug 1, 2021

    This one has massive head-dive, for sure....I just struggle with it or sit down...<laughs!>
     
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