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Identifying Fender Jazz pickups

Discussion in 'Pickups & Electronics [BG]' started by Gander, Jul 3, 2003.


  1. Gander

    Gander

    Jun 5, 2002
    Texas
    How do you tell Fender jazz MIA from MIM pickups? Are they marked with parts numbers or do you read coil resistance or what? My bass is a MIM Fender Jazz V. Thanks for your replies.
     
  2. BillyB_from_LZ

    BillyB_from_LZ Supporting Member

    Sep 7, 2000
    Chicago
    Did you look at Fender.com?

    I have a MIM Deluxe Active J5 (or whatever order all of those nouns go in) and I think the pups are MIA.

    Why do you ask?
     
  3. The MIM pickups are a skoch bigger than the MIA. I haven't pulled out the calipers though
     
  4. BillyB_from_LZ

    BillyB_from_LZ Supporting Member

    Sep 7, 2000
    Chicago
    good point....earlier MIM Js had same size pups where MIA Js had different size pups. I think that recent MIMs have MIA sized pups...not positive though.
     
  5. Gander

    Gander

    Jun 5, 2002
    Texas
    My bass is a 98 V MIM with the bridge pickup longer than the neck pickup. I've read on this forum many times that the older MIM's have the same length pickups. Mine also appear to hum cancel when using both pickups at the same volume level. Since I bought the bass used, I'm wondering if someone installed MIA pickups in it. I would like to examine them and identify my pickups as MIM or MIA. Thanks again for the your input.
     
  6. BillyB_from_LZ

    BillyB_from_LZ Supporting Member

    Sep 7, 2000
    Chicago
    Hopefully I won't get flogged for suggesting this....if you don't get the answer you're looking for here, check out http://www.fenderforum.com

    I believe that there is a spot to ask Fender directly.
     
  7. BillyB_from_LZ

    BillyB_from_LZ Supporting Member

    Sep 7, 2000
    Chicago
    Just had a thought, and did some poking around and found some info.

    If you go to http://www.mrgearhead.com there is a wealth of info about recent fender basses (it's Fender's tech support site)

    Clicking on the link for Guitar/Bass Wiring and Switching Diagrams pulls up a table of links for .pdf documents of wiring schematics, parts lists, etc. Cool Stuff!!!!

    The orignal MIM Js had equal length pups and the parts list shows one part number 0036437000

    The parts list for the upgraded MIM J (unequal length pups) calls out the following part numbers:

    Neck 0058294000
    Bridge 0058295000

    The Am and Am Std J Basses have pups with the following part numbers

    Neck 0033753000
    Bridge 0033746000

    I don't know if the part numbers are marked on the bobbins or not. If you take the pups out, BE CAREFULL. One little slip could break the hair-thin magnet wire rendering your pickup dead.

    BTW, it is a typical phenomonon for a pair of full-on J pups to be hum free.

    Have fun!!!!!
     
  8. BillyB_from_LZ

    BillyB_from_LZ Supporting Member

    Sep 7, 2000
    Chicago
    good grief...I missed the V in your description of the bass as in 98 V (confirmed by your profile).

    MIM J5 pups Neck 0053303000
    Bridge 0053302000


    MIA J5 pups Neck 0048735000
    Bridge 0048736000


    If you take a look...let us know what you find and tell us where they're marked.

    Oh...had another thought and looked at the wiring diagrams. The MIA calls out white and black wires from the pups, the MIM white(yellow) and black. I'm not sure if that means a yellow stripe or the white wire could be yellow.

    I'm done now;)
     
  9. Gander

    Gander

    Jun 5, 2002
    Texas
    Made a quick check on wire color. My pickup wires are solid black and solid white(no yellow stripe). I've never pulled the pups on my jazz. I did pull my MIJ Fender P/J Jazz Bass Special pups and don't remember any markings on them. I'll probably pull a pup on the jazz day after tomorrow (gotta barbeque on the 4th). Thanks again for all the helpful input and happy Indepencence Day.
     
  10. Gander

    Gander

    Jun 5, 2002
    Texas
    Dismantled one my pups and no visible markings on the pickup or cover.
     
  11. BillyB_from_LZ

    BillyB_from_LZ Supporting Member

    Sep 7, 2000
    Chicago
    Hmmmm....

    Do the solder connections on the controls look original or do they look like someone has worked on them. Compare the connections on the volume controls to those on the tone control.

    Beyond that, perhaps a visit to fenderforum.com and an email to the folks in Scottsdale would be the only way to find out. I don't know if mexi pups have a different dc resistance than MIA pups, that would be one other way to tell if they're original or not.

    Have fun!!!!
     
  12. Turock

    Turock Supporting Member

    Apr 30, 2000
    Melnibone
    They don't have to be full-on to be hum free. Both knobs just need to be set the same. For instance, if both volume knobs are turned 1/4 or 1/2 or full-on or... they will be hum free.
     
  13. Gander

    Gander

    Jun 5, 2002
    Texas
    I purchased a set of MIA jazz V pups on ebay and compared them to my existing pups. I can find no markings on either set. They are identical in color, size and weight. The only difference I could find was in resistance across the coils. They are as follows: MIM-3.42K neck and 5.15k bridge----MIA-7.34k neck and 7.62k bridge. I've only played it once since I installed the MIA's, so the jury's still out on the sound.