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If a random kid came up to you

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by KyleCynical, Jun 3, 2001.

  1. KyleCynical


    Jun 3, 2001
    and had $800 in hand that he worked his arse off for, what would you tell him to buy? (kid has no gear whatsoever, would like to spend it on getting started on bass, needs something enough for band rehearsals-nerd rock, emo, classic rock.)

    I have the money, but I just don't know what to do with it! I really don't want to blow all this money on just an amp, or a bass, though.
  2. rickbass

    rickbass Supporting Member

    Welcome to TalkBass!

    The best used amp he could find for $500 and the best used bass he could find for $300.
  3. Oysterman


    Mar 30, 2000
    What Rick said.
  4. JMX

    JMX Vorsprung durch Technik

    Sep 4, 2000
    Cologne, Germany
    What Rickbass1 said.

    Try to avoid amps with less than 100W RMS.
  5. Munjibunga

    Munjibunga Total Hyper-Elite Member Gold Supporting Member

    May 6, 2000
    San Diego (when not at Groom Lake)
    Independent Contractor to Bass San Diego
    Qualcomm stock.
  6. Nino Valenti

    Nino Valenti Supporting Member Commercial User

    Feb 2, 2001
    Staten Island NYC
    Builder: Valenti Basses
    Dean Edge 4
    Fender Mexican P bass or Jazz bass
    Yamaha BB-4N
    Ibanez SR-300

    Ampeg B2 combo
    Fender Bassman 100
    Crate BX-100

    There are many more choises out there, but I gave you the ones off the top of my head.

    Good Luck & welcome to TB!!!!
  7. Brendan

    Brendan Supporting Member

    Jun 18, 2000
    Austin, TX
  8. CrawlingEye

    CrawlingEye Member

    Mar 20, 2001
    Easton, Pennsylvania
    I say he learns how to use a pick, get's a Fender MIM P-bass, then gets himself a Peavey combo. (combo 115... TNT or whatever) Or something else that's atleast 200 watts, with a few bells and whistles.

    P's are what most people that play emo use.
  9. Jeff in TX

    Jeff in TX Supporting Member

    Nov 1, 2000
    Lone Star State
    I would advise him to save $100 for lessons (@ 30 minutes/lesson that's over a month's worth) and have his instructor help him find a bass and amp that would be best for him.

  10. Tsal


    Jan 28, 2000
    Finland, EU
    I'd say that new Yamaha BBN4 and used Peavey TNT(130 or 115) combo would be pretty nifty idea.

    Those would cost you around 600 bucks and you'd have 100 bucks to put in lessons. If you could have your parents pay lessons, Yamaha BBG4S(or BBG5S) would cost you 100 bucks more.
  11. RAM


    May 10, 2000
    Chicago, IL
  12. Dave Castelo

    Dave Castelo

    Apr 19, 2000
    i would say "learn how to play with fingers FIRST"... then learn some songs with picks...

    but, oh well
  13. CrawlingEye

    CrawlingEye Member

    Mar 20, 2001
    Easton, Pennsylvania
    Sorry Dave, but I beg to differ. When you're first learning, you have a better feel for what you're more familiar with. If he learned finger picking, it'd be difficult to go back and learn with a pick, and vice versa.

    Emo sounds best while played with a pick. I'd say that's subjective, but I don't know of an emo band that has a bassist that finger picks - do you?

  14. Mark Gollihur

    Mark Gollihur Supporting Member Commercial User

    Jul 19, 2000
    Mullica Hill, NJ
    Owner/President, Gollihur Music LLC
    I gotta go with Dave. What happens if he changes his mind about the style he wants to play? He should learn how to play as many styles as possible with whatever techniques are available to him.

    If he wants to doggedly pursue one sub-genre at the expense of all others, then -- rather than bass -- we should encourage him to start on guitar, where such closed-mindedness is valued.

    (Big, evil grin)
  15. CrawlingEye

    CrawlingEye Member

    Mar 20, 2001
    Easton, Pennsylvania
    That's a quite pathetic post. If you can learn picking just as easily as you can learn finger picking, then wouldn't it be in his best interest to learn what would suit him best for what he'll need sooner?

    I don't see the logic being used here...
    Do any of you have any personal experience with emo? Or even what emo is? Weezer isn't emo, neither is Blink 182, or any bands you'll fine on mtv... I'll give you that.

    (immense condescending grin)
  16. Angus

    Angus Supporting Member

    Apr 16, 2000
    Palo Alto, CA
    :rolleyes:...Sigh, good ol C-Eye...

    I'm with Dave and Sixandeightstringer on this one. Why should he focus on one SMALL subgenre instead of learning to play bass in general? Versatility is a good thing. Start with fingers, definitely. Picking can be easily picked up later, whereas fingerstyle playing has a lot more technique involved, especially initially.

    If everyone did what was easiest in the beginning, they'd all play with 1 finger on both hands.

    Besides, if every emo bassist uses a pick and a P, shouldn't that be a good reason NOT to do either? Gotta be different, right? ;)

    BTW, "...a quite..." would sound a lot better written as "...quite a...", so you'd get "That's quite a pathetic..." instead of "That's a quite pathetic...". ;)
  17. CrawlingEye

    CrawlingEye Member

    Mar 20, 2001
    Easton, Pennsylvania
    I disagree. I find it much harder to pick then play finger-style. I've been finger picking for four years, but apparently that's not too long. I can play as fast as I've ever needed to with my fingers, while I can barely use a pick. I don't see that as being logical. He could always pick up finger picking later, kinda like looking for a quick fix.

    Don't fixate on long-term goals if you can't accomplish your contemporary goals.
  18. Aaron


    Jun 2, 2001
    Bellingham, WA
    I would say, "Hey kid can you lend me $800 bucks?"

    -used musicman stingray and save up for an amp.

    -A $200 1967 ampeg b15 portaflex in a pawnshop where the owner doesn't know how much it is worth and an american model jazz bass

    -acoustic 360, a 1962 fender fretless jazz, and a video called "Modern Electric Bass" by JAco Pastorius

    -or i would tell he/she save up an other 15-20k for an upright and an other 3k for a good bow, make sure it is not a german bow.
  19. Aaron


    Jun 2, 2001
    Bellingham, WA
    why use a pick, is the kid too weak to use his own fingers?!!! just kidding. If i was serious lemmy would be kicking my ass. And chris squire probably would too. I use a pick... annually. I definately prefere fingerstyle/fingerpicking, i think it doesn't sound as sterile, it is easier on string crossing and double stops can be played. oh yea, you can't play jaco style false harmonics with a flatpick. I would like to see someone play birdland with a flatpick. (i'm sure it could be done with fingerpicks).
  20. jasonbraatz


    Oct 18, 2000
    Oakland, CA
    hey, i got into my upright for 2k including GERMAN bow. it sucks for classical music, but it rocks for jazz!

    and what's an emo? any relation to the emu?

    one last thing - learn how to not use a pick. incase you ever want to play music that doesn't involve flightless birds you will be better off.

    (edit - forgot to answer the question!) buy an MIJ Fender (i'd say jazz bass because it's more versatile, but if the P works for ya go for it) and spend the rest on a hartke kickback combo. (best combo i've ever played, loud too.) save for lessons too - or you could enroll in your schools orchestra on upright. (yeah, it may not be cool, but you will get much better, trust me.)


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