If you had a choice:

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by modny123, Dec 8, 2014.

  1. modny123

    modny123 Guest

    Sep 14, 2014
    Note: i have used the search function and found a x vs. y thread on these amps but i didn't really have my questions answered...


    I know i hum and haw over amps, but i know a lot of people make GAS related moves in this forum and i dont wanna have that happen to me lol...

    I have the chance to grab the following amps:

    Crown XLS1000
    Stuart world 1.2
    Demeter vtbp- 201s
    Aguilar db659


    Im unsure what kind if cab combination to go with to be honest right now... But what do you think are my best options out of this list?

    I play a studio model f bass currently but id like to pickup a p/j fender in the future.

    Play mostly top 40 music.


    Thanks
     
  2. Yango

    Yango Inactive

    Apr 14, 2008
    Well, the Demeter vtbp- 201s is a preamp, so if you go for that one, you'd need a power amp as well.

    I've never played any of the others you mention, so I'll defer to the experience of other TB'ers.

    BTW, with the way your post is worded, I don't think you're going to get any useful feedback IMHO.
     
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  3. Passinwind

    Passinwind I know nothing. Commercial User

    Dec 3, 2003
    Columbia River Gorge, WA.
    Owner/Designer &Toaster Tech Passinwind Electronics
    You've listed two power amps and two preamps, then thrown in a vague reference to cabs. What was the question again? [​IMG]
     
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  4. modny123

    modny123 Guest

    Sep 14, 2014
    The stuArt and crowns are both power sections

    The demeter and aguilar are pre amp sections
     
  5. Passinwind

    Passinwind I know nothing. Commercial User

    Dec 3, 2003
    Columbia River Gorge, WA.
    Owner/Designer &Toaster Tech Passinwind Electronics
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  6. Jeff Scott

    Jeff Scott Rickenbacker guru..........

    Apr 11, 2006
    Out there!
    I have owned a couple of Stewart World 1.2s and a World 600 in the past. They sound great but keep in mind they get REALLY hot. Adequate ventilation and, ideally, a rack fan required for them IME.
     
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  7. modny123

    modny123 Guest

    Sep 14, 2014
    The 1.2. Is 1000w bridged into 4 ohms
     
  8. Passinwind

    Passinwind I know nothing. Commercial User

    Dec 3, 2003
    Columbia River Gorge, WA.
    Owner/Designer &Toaster Tech Passinwind Electronics
    Maybe Jeff can comment on whether it actually works robustly enough run that way though. Lots of bad press in the pro sound community on those in any case, all related to cooling issues. Do you need to bridge into 4?
     
  9. modny123

    modny123 Guest

    Sep 14, 2014
    Well i love having plenty of headroom, i never necessarily crank any of my amps and generally only play small-medium size bars.


    So depending on which cabs i go with...
     
  10. Passinwind

    Passinwind I know nothing. Commercial User

    Dec 3, 2003
    Columbia River Gorge, WA.
    Owner/Designer &Toaster Tech Passinwind Electronics
    Which generation XLS1000 are you looking at?
     
  11. modny123

    modny123 Guest

    Sep 14, 2014
    Not really sure, it looks fairly new tho
     
  12. Passinwind

    Passinwind I know nothing. Commercial User

    Dec 3, 2003
    Columbia River Gorge, WA.
    Owner/Designer &Toaster Tech Passinwind Electronics
    Is it one with the DSP stuff?
     
  13. Jeff Scott

    Jeff Scott Rickenbacker guru..........

    Apr 11, 2006
    Out there!
    The W1.2s never shut down on me but I was always concerned it would melt anything sitting above it. I used it both in bridge mode and parallel mono with a cable I made to run my F-1X into both channels to run each one at 8Ω.
     
  14. modny123

    modny123 Guest

    Sep 14, 2014

    So would you consider it a relaible power amp?

    If i have a 4 space rack bag and kept it on the bottom and the pre on the top i should be good then?
     
  15. Jeff Scott

    Jeff Scott Rickenbacker guru..........

    Apr 11, 2006
    Out there!
    It was reliable for me, but I felt that the heat it generated was not doing it any favors. Modern Class D amps are amazing in how much power they produce with little to virtually no heat to speak of (not to mention how great they sound) I would never think of getting another Stewart amp, really. And, it this day and age the World 1.2 is heavy and large for the power it makes.

    As to your second question, that should be fine but why waste so much usable space given what I just mentioned about modern Class D amps? :thumbsup:
     
  16. The Regulator

    The Regulator

    Aug 10, 2005
    I have played the Aguilar db659 many times. That's one sweet sounding pre-amp.
     
  17. modny123

    modny123 Guest

    Sep 14, 2014
    Because i hear about when you drive these modern class d amps hard ie: th500 they just fall apart


    So as good as the idea is with low wattage class d amps id rather get high wattage class D power section, not kill it, have the power, save the weight, size isn't that big a deal. I dont take public transit or anything
     
  18. Low Class

    Low Class

    Jul 4, 2005
    Gasaholic
    As far as power amps, I say neither! Get a Crest ProLite for not much more than you'd pay for a used Stewart.
     
  19. modny123

    modny123 Guest

    Sep 14, 2014
    Ya? Ive never heard of them! I will look into them
     
  20. Passinwind

    Passinwind I know nothing. Commercial User

    Dec 3, 2003
    Columbia River Gorge, WA.
    Owner/Designer &Toaster Tech Passinwind Electronics
    Crest has been a very respected pro audio player for many years. Northern Sound and Light has 'em, and usually for the lowest prices, but you have to call for the best price unless you're on their "super secret preferred buyer list." Modern lightweight power amps bought new with great warranties are the way to go IMHO.