improve my music reading

Discussion in 'Technique [BG]' started by Fishbrain, Sep 30, 2001.

  1. Fishbrain


    Dec 8, 2000
    England, Liverpool
    Endorsing Artist: Warwick Bass and Amp
    i can read treble cleff music pretty good. but when it comes too bass cleff i cant just read it and play it at the same time i have to sit there for ages and work it out. i never had a need for it b4 but i have recently joined the school orchestra and i do need it now. any tips? oh and could sum1 explain why you need different bass and treble cleff music any way?
  2. Lovebown

    Lovebown Guest

    Jan 6, 2001
    Start reading easy notation and write the tone beneath the note (tone on the fingerboard E, G, B etc.) if you have to. THere is really no way to learn except start reading it.
    good luck,
  3. Back in the day composeres wanted a staff with enought lines to cover all the notes sung by all voices/ This staff has 11 lines and 10 spaces. They found that this many lines were rather diffucult to read and many lines were unnessary for different voices except for middle c. So they broke it into two the bottom 5 lines created the bass clef, the top five are the treble clef and the one line left over in the middle is middle c.
  4. melvin

    melvin Guest

    Apr 28, 2001
    I dont think I can add much more than what the others did. Do you have staff paper? If not get some. Write the bass clef symbol and then some random notes (nothing wacky, try to keep it in the same area on your bass, and start with quater notes) work on that till you can write stuff and say yeah thats an A, then C, then a G.
  5. cammojoe

    cammojoe Guest

    Jul 27, 2001
    Houston, Tx, USA
    I've been playing violin for about 5 years and just recently I wanted to take double bass as well. What really helped me was a beginner book. It starts out with a couple of notes and as you progress it adds more notes for you to play. It will also teach you dinamics and speeds. A really great way to learn notation better. Another method i was tought but i never tried is flash cards. to me it was a hastle and good luck trying to flip and play at once. One of the main factors here is time. Even with out the book or the cards you will get better with time.
  6. Fishbrain


    Dec 8, 2000
    England, Liverpool
    Endorsing Artist: Warwick Bass and Amp
    thanx for clearin that up, and thanx everyone else aswell.
  7. surf_slave

    surf_slave Guest

    Sep 9, 2001
    San Diego, CA
    What he said :). What helped my reading most was writing. Try transcribing stuff from CDs.
  8. bobaweeka

    bobaweeka Guest

    Jan 2, 2001
    I would recommend learning to read the bass clef, the same way you learned treble. I can read treble easily, but I've been working on bass. Few notes at a time is my best advice. Even if you are playing lame stuff like hot cross buns, it helps towards the learning process.
  9. Davidoc

    Davidoc Guest

    Sep 2, 2000
    Northern VA and JMU
  10. This was called a Great Stave.... There's also an Alto clef which middle C is on the 3rd line, just to really get you going

    I think this is for alto instruments, like some saxaphones, oboe, clarinet

    If you ever see it it looks like a big B, but it's only used in orchestras

    {End Maurice's thought for the day}
  11. Pacman

    Pacman Layin' Down Time Staff Member Gold Supporting Member

    Apr 1, 2000
    Omaha, Nebraska
    Endorsing Artist: Roscoe Guitars, DR Strings, Aguilar Amplification
    Actually, that's a tenor clef, or C clef. The spot where the two 'bumps' of the B meet is C. It's often moved around. I've seen it for Cello, and trombone as well.
  12. Chris Fitzgerald

    Chris Fitzgerald Student of Life Staff Member Administrator Gold Supporting Member

    Oct 19, 2000
    Louisville, KY


    Alto clef is used primarily for viola. All saxophones, clarinets, and oboes use treble clef. Tenor clef, in which the second line down becomes middle C, is also used for Cello and trombone. The purpose of these clefs is to keep most of the notation within the staff, especially on score pages which contain many instruments per system.
  13. :p ahhh, I see
    Well shows how much I know

    Least I tried, thanks for clearing that up for me

    Spose It'll be a while before I'm a fully qualified Jedi;)
  14. Fishbrain


    Dec 8, 2000
    England, Liverpool
    Endorsing Artist: Warwick Bass and Amp
    thanx everyone :D