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Discussion in 'Recordings [DB]' started by damonsmith, Apr 20, 2010.
i don't get it
I heard some warm-up exercises, but where's the solo?
I liked it~ right around 1.30 it sounds like Charlie Danials~ anyone that can make a double bass sound like a violin has got my vote.
Jesus Damon. I loved that. You came out of nowhere with all this energy and really maintained the drive. The gliss was like being skinned alive. Great catch.
It got pretty cool about half way I thought
Nice! Quite a wide palette there. I like the break room solos too.
Makes me want to get back into exploring extended techniques a bit, thanks for posting !
I just got to know...why the weird responses from "standupright" and "Exploiter8"? They seem so out of left field to me. Neither of you guys have any background whatsoever in free or experimental music? I mean, I can see why you might not "get it" or that it sounds like "warm-ups" based on your backgrounds but why even bother to post something kind of negative on the forum? I'm not one for false-respect, pecking-orders or even hushed criticism. This is a bass players forum after all but if you're gonna make statements like that why don't you explain yourself a little more for the sake of respect for the OP and to advance the discussion? Pot shots out of left field don't really make this a better forum. I sat on this for a few days but every time I read it I feel like saying "*** is up with you two"? AND, do you have any idea what a fine musician and contributor Damon Smith is to improvised music, furthering concepts on the bass and this forum? If you're gonna make such stillborn comments at least back them up with some kind of intelligent discussion. I'm sure Damon could care less but it kind of got under my skin.
This is really fantastic! Thanks for posting this, I really enjoyed it. You integrate such a huge palette of sounds very seamlessly. My only complaint is the video is quite dark so I can't see exactly what you're doing...
i have a classical background of 25 years. my background has nothing to do with it. and just because i don't "get it" means that i'm taking a pot shot or posting something negative?
i don't get it. simple as that. i didn't say anything negative about it at all.
maybe instead of playing save-a-bro on the internet, you could post something interesting about this type of music.
Sorry to have gotten under your skin. I know what it's like to be upset about something, let it fester, and then become all out rage. Perhaps I should have stated that it just wasn't my cup of tea, and ended my post with a smiley face. If the OP has a gripe with me, then he can tell me so, and we will discuss. You've had your say, so case closed.
i liked it. out/experimental, alternate approaches, fun stuff... sometimes more fun to play than listen to. pics of the sketches with the music might've given a context, and different reaction. context means much when there is no relation or basis for relation for the listenser... a friend of mine used to say to me all the time:
"just because no one understands you doesn't mean that you are an artist"
Well, your original statements really said it all which is why I left it in the first place. You don't get it, I get it. It's cool. Sav-a-bro is pretty funny if it wasn't so cynical. Here is some more music astounding music you might not get:
I appreciate all the posts! You don't make music like this (or to quote Cage, we don't have to call it music if the term offends you!) for everyone to like.
I don't feel the need to defend, but it is nice to throw this kind of thing out into to the greater world of talkbass and see what happens.
Here is the text I wrote on the youtube page:
"A solo improvisation in my living room. The glissando section is inspired by Iannis Xenakis' drawings:
Less by his monumental solo double bass composition "Theraps" and more by his ideas of glisando representing the fluid curves of his architectual ideas."
As far as the lighting, the whole situation was spotaneous - I picked up the bass, saw the camera, set it up and went for it.
For me some of the interest lies in pausing on non-tempered pitch in the glissando section. I feel that can take a lot more confidence to play a willful non-standard pitch.
They appear in many extended techniques, but it is harder to allow yourself to do it during traditional playing/fingerings.
Red Mitchell would sometimes a nail a pitch nead center then flatten it to give a vocal inflection, I also saw a fantastic duo of Barre Phillips and Bert Turetzky in Jerusalem where they really played some interesting pitches.
The only issue I could take with any of the comments is the warm up comment.
Nobody warms up like this! You don't warm up with glisses, string multi-phonics and subharmonics!
I played a modern experimental piece like that in a bass trio at a summer music festival my senior year of high school. Not exactly my kind of thing musically, but just the fact that a double bass can produce such interesting sounds other than it's original intent is pretty awesome. High five!!
I like the strong reactions that Damon music gets here on the forum, I think it's a perfect addition to the wealth of knowledge and perspective here.
Damon, what's your camara/audio recording setup? if you don't mind divulging.
Very simple Nikon Coolpix 570. About $150 at Best Buy. While I wouldn't call the audio great it is more than tollerable for just a digital camera.
My last camera picked mechanical noise from the camera itself while recording video. This one does not.
It is also a great little point and shoot camera, the photos come out very crisp.
Do another video while ur still popular~
Damon, I'm sorry the warm-up remark offended you, but I would think practicing those techniques could be considered warming up. IDK I've had others listen to the link and then asked if they thought my comment was negative, and they didn't. I should not have commented on a subject I evidently know nothing about. I've since checked out your MySpace and Home page; quite impressive reading. Sarcasm and humor are sometimes hard to come across via the written word. Maybe we need more icons describing the theme of the post? Leave it to me to be the Village Idiot. I guess that's an upgrade, before I was just an Idiot!
I don't understand the appeal of Rap, Hip-Hop, or Screaming Death Metal, but I'll defend their right to express themselves. You've expanded my musical horizon, Thanks!
It didn't offend me it was just incorrect! I warm up like everyone else, scales, long tones, Simandl, Bach.
I do spend time working on the extended techniques, and more to boil them down to an idea that can be presented whole rather than developed.
In a lot of my music I avoid development which can add yet another layer of abstraction.
No offense taken by anyone. One of my interests for improvised music is less obscurity rather than more fans.
I'd rather have more people dislike the music than being unaware of it entirely.