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In-ear monitors, wired vs. wireless...WIRED!

Discussion in 'Miscellaneous [BG]' started by adouglas, Sep 2, 2003.

  1. adouglas


    Jun 23, 2003
    Bridgeport, CT
    I want to pass something along in case anyone's interested....

    My band's PA is modest (we play mostly acoustic-type stuff and pop,
    e.g. Eagles, at volumes that don't make your ears bleed) but we need
    monitors for three-part harmonies. Not wanting to buy or lug yet
    another amp and yet more speakers, a while back we bought a wireless
    monitor system. It was the then-current Carvin unit, which is pretty
    much the same as the Nady.

    It worked and served its purpose, but it had a really severe compressor
    built into it that stomped all over the signal, making it hard to hear
    ourselves clearly. We just suffered along.

    Last night at rehearsal we tried an experiment: We used a headphone
    distribution amp that we have for our small recording studio setup
    instead of the wireless.

    Holy eardrum, Batman!!! It sounds MUCH MUCH MUCH better.

    We also added an ambience mic (just a mic that just picks up room
    sound). A little bit of that in the mix further improves things.

    In the monitor mix we have the three vocals and a bit of guitar. Drums
    (in our case provided by a machine) and bass come through the ambience
    mic as well as directly into our ears (we use some Sony walkman-type
    headphones that hook over your ear and don't fit too tightly in the ear
    canal, so we can hear some outside sound...we don't see the point of
    running at damaging levels so we don't need earplugs).

    The downsides:

    1) MORE wires to trip over on stage, dammit!
    2) Can't adjust volume at your belt.
    3) Can't move far from the mic (mostly because of tangling
    wires...they're as long as our instrument cables).
    4) No limiter to protect us in the event of a dropped mic, etc.
    (however, this may not be as dangerous as it would otherwise be because
    we don't use form-fitting earpieces).

    The upsides:

    1) The monitor mix sounds better than the mains!
    2) No worries about batteries.
    3) We can turn down the monitors because they're so much clearer.
    4) Way cheaper than wireless, even the cheapo rig we had.
    5) Still a heckuva lot easier to tote around than floor monitors.

    If you're considering in-ear monitors, try it...you can get a decent distribution amp for not much more than $100. The headphones we use are ten bucks a set, and the extension cables six bucks each.

    BTW, it's also a great way to get the g***arist to turn down... just
    feed a little bit of the guitar into the monitor mix. He'll get it
    right in his ear, so he can turn it down and still be heard very
  2. Petebass


    Dec 22, 2002
    QLD Australia
    ahh yess, that would be Carvin covering their butts if you ever decide to sue for hearing loss. I don't know for sure if anyone has ever damaged their hearing this way..........
  3. Petebass


    Dec 22, 2002
    QLD Australia
    Great now I'm a scum sucking bottom dweller. I named my catfish after my lawer for that reason.......

    Actually Moike, Poida is a trained (ie- non practicing) Accountant! Close but no cigar.
  4. Munjibunga

    Munjibunga Total Hyper-Elite Member Gold Supporting Member

    May 6, 2000
    San Diego (when not at Groom Lake)
    Independent Contractor to Bass San Diego
    Now, you each need one of these:

    Rolls Personal Monitor Mixer


    You plug your monitor mix into it and you plug your mic into it. The mic signal is passed through to the mixer and also is sent directly to your headset. You can adjust both the volume of your mic and the volume of your monitor mix in your headphones/ear buds. Works bitchen.

    This is the battery powered one. The wall-wart powered one is $49.95 at GC. The battery powered one is a little more.
  5. adouglas


    Jun 23, 2003
    Bridgeport, CT
    omigosh...that's PERFECT!!!! gimme gimme!!!!
  6. mikemulcahy


    Jun 13, 2000
    The Abyss

    Sorry m8, I didnt mean to offend, I deleted the post.

  7. Petebass


    Dec 22, 2002
    QLD Australia
    lol....Offend? Didn't offend me one bit! I took it as a joke. Put the post back will ya!!!!!!!!
  8. adouglas


    Jun 23, 2003
    Bridgeport, CT
    After seeing that little Rolls personal monitor amp, I bought one.


    It's AWESOME!!!!! I've never been able to hear myself so clearly!

    If you sing, try it, you'll like it.

    The combination of wired in-ear monitors and this gadget is several orders of magnitude better than the wireless system ever was.

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