In need of advice for bass amps

My suggestion...

Eden!

Eden WT800B/C
Eden D410XLT
Eden D210XST

get better insurance cuz you will be slamming chest hairs through people's backs

 

My suggestion.

Stay away from Eden.

GK makes some great stuff. Durable, and affordable too.

 

You want to cut through any mix?

Ampeg Ampeg Ampeg.

Just stay away from that damn B-series, Horrible slop made overseas.

 

The mark VI is a great amp, and 2x15s (good ones) should certainly hold their own . Are you running a DI thru the PA? If you want loud, then I would go that direction.

 

If you dont want problems from the start.. Stay away from eden.. There is a thread going on right now addressing that issue from once again multiple Former eden users..
If you are gigging once a month the eden would be fine but if you are a pro and gigging all the time stay clear of eden..

FYI.. and former eden user with horrible experience. Go to the eden forum and read all the issues people are having with their new 800C rhigt out of the box.. issues still continue months after they said they were fixed.

Do the homework, dont take my word for it.

Loud and reliable.. Genz Benz GBE750.. Lots of reviews about Genz gear especially the GBE1200. Dual channles FET and TUBE.. RELIABLE!!!
From super clean to TUBE distortion if you want.. Punchy fast, and EXCELLENT Immediate customer service, from mine and other folks experience.. I love my GBE1200 for a wide variety of gigs, jazzy stuff to acoustic, to all out R7B and Rock gigs.. Great sounding DI. Sound great flat but it has Much Mucho EQ options..

And all the eden worshippers will gang up and say their peace about GB only because their feelings are hurt that so many left to go to GB.. Dont fall for it... FYI- you see, you cant tell the whole truth about eden here, many people get their undergarments in a wad..

 

857.

 

hahhaha LOL.. I knew i ws being watched.. who me.. im not paranoid.

Inside joke here.. sorry... I may have over stepped and my mission could be complete in 845..

 

If you want to get that heavy bone rattling sound you really need to run a DI through a PA. If the venue is of decent size thats the only realistic way. For smaller clubs you can get away with a 810 or a 410 and a 115. From there you just need to find an amp that cuts through the way you want it too. I think GK is great but just try a bunch of things. Its all about how you EQ things. You can play a 1600W amp but if you are dumping most of that power into very low frequencies you may not hear yourself at all in the mix.

 

You didn't mention that you needed a super high volume situation. Fact is if you do, then like someone alluded to you need to DI whatever you end up with anyway.

Eden, Genz, they both make great sounding products. I can't speak to the reliability issues of Eden but if I were you and there was something on the radar that made someone sound-off it would concern me.

Personally the only way I would consider hauling a separate head/ cab rig made by anybody is if I were playing larger venues/outdoor shows almost exclusively. But I'm a bit of a portability freak these days.

I have not done the small to medium size gig that my GK 1001 RB combo has not stepped up to the plate for. When I get to a bigger venue or outdoors, I throw it up on an extra cab, warn the drummer and file the necessary permits...

Joel

 

These bassists:


ABE LABORIEL L.A. Session Ace
ABE WHITE Cold Truth, Dan Shafer
ACE LIVINGSTON J Lo
ADAM BLACKSTONE Jill Scott Band, Jay-Z, Various Artists
ADAM PHILLIPS Autumn & Empire
ARIANE CAP Tempest /Solo Artist
AL TURNER Kem, Oleta Adams, Earl Klugh and Bob James
ALEX AL Studio ace, The Vibe Show
ALEX EVANS BeBe and CeCe Winans
ALEX KATUNICH Incubus
ALLISON PRESSWOOD Patty Loveless/Session Ace
AMLAK TAFARI Pato Banton
ANNA KJELLBERG Drain
ARTIE REYNOLDS Alex Bugron
ASTON "FAMILY MAN" BARRETT Bob Marley, The Wailers, Reggae Studio Ace
B6 (RON BUCKNER) The Buckner Funken Jazz Band
BAKITHI KUMALO Paul Simon, Various Artists
BENNY RIETVELD Santana
BILL CLEMENTS Solo Artist, Clinician
BOBBY BELLEMANS Junior Brown
BONES HILLMAN Midnight Oil
BRAD ALBIN Joe Nichols
BRIAN BUSH Impromp2
BRIAN MINATO Sarah McLachlan
BRIAN PATTERSON The Manhattans
BRYAN HOWARD Kevin Kinney
BYRON HOUSE Dixie Chicks
CASS LEWIS Various Artists
CHARLIE HAYWARD Charlie Daniels Band
CHARLIE HUNTER Charlie Hunter Trio
CHRIS EIKE Finneus Gauge
CHRIS KENT Take 6
CHRIS MATTHEWS Various Artists
CHRIS PARKS Various Artists
CHRIS SEVERIN Various Artists
CHRISTIAN STÖCK Marla Glen
CHRISTINE ELLIS Martha Davis
CHUCK WEBB Ramsey Lewis, others.
CLINT HARRIS Various Artists
CONRAD KORSCH Various Artists
CORKY HOLBROOK Billy Ray Cyrus
CORNELIUS MIMS Brandy
CRAIG MURRAY Crash the Machine / Educator
DAN WALTERS Les Dudek, LFO/Dan Walters/Solo
DARREL FREEMAN Queen Latifah, Donnie McClurkin, Session Artist
DAVE MEROS Spock's Beard, Eric Burdon
DAVID GERGO Polka King
DAVID SLANKARD Everything
DAVID TAYLOR Byan Adams
DAVE WEBB Sugarland/Various Artists
DEAN JARVIS Nelly Furtado
DENNIS MICHAELS Joseph & the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat
DENNIS MURPHY Acoustic Alchemy
DEREK POWELL Trousers
DINO KOURELIS Marty Casey & The Lovehammers
DOUG LUNNMark Isham
DOUGIE KEEBLER beggars fortune
DR. DAVE BURNS The Beat Daddys
DUANE "SMITTY" SMITH Bone James
"E" PRUITT Soloist/Various Artists
ERIC SMITH Tony Rich Project/Babyface
ERIC UDELL Blues Brothers
ERNEST TIBBS
David Benoit
ETHAN FARMER Christina
EVAN MARIENHouse of Isness/Evan Marien Group
FELL HERDEZ New Brown Hat
FRAYNE LEWISFrayne
GABRIEL WISEMANProducer/session
GARY JONES The Goodfellas/Producer
GEISAN VARNE Jimmy Cliff
GEORGE REIFF Charlie Sexton
GERALD ALBRIGHT MCA Recording Artist
GREG COOK Ricochet
GIORGIO TUPANJANIN Various Artists - Session Ace
GREG MAGNUSON Magnuson
GREG RZAB Buddy Guy
GREGORY JONES Bobby Watson
GUNTER NEZHODA Pat Travers & Leslie West
IAN MILLER Shakin' Pickle
IRA DEAN Trick Pony
J.J. BARRERA Tailgators
J.V. COLLIER Bruce Hornsby
JAKE WILLEMAIN Clint Black
JASON SCHEFF Chicago
JAY TURNER Nashville Bassist
JEFF ANDREWS Mike Stern Trio
JEFF COLLETTE Nashville Session
JEFF McELROY Kitaro
JEFF WHITTLE Tiles
JEPH HOWARDThe Used
JEROME ALLEN Kirk Franklin & Family
JIM FERGUSON Crystal Gale
JIM MAYER Jimmy Buffett
JIMMY CREEGANBNL
JOE BUTCHERGeorge Canyon
JOE LEE Derryl Perry
JOE A. THOMAS Billy Joe Walker Jr.
JOHN BILLINGS Donna Summer, Rick Springfield
JOHN DUNN The Lion King
JOHN HATTON Brian Setzer Orchestra
JOHN HOWARD Faith Hill, 6 Wire
JOHN "THE BARBARIAN" ALTEVOGT Mama Cotton
JOHNNY B. GAYDEN Albert Collins / Various Artists
JOHNNY CASTLE Nighthawks
JORGE CASAS Gloria Estefan
JOSH CROMER Overflow
JOSH HIGGINS Fluf
JUAN GARCIA-HERREROS The Snow Owl Quartet
KAI ECKHARDT Garaj Mahal
KEITH JONES Andy Narell
KEN BARNUM33 West
KIM FARRAR Bloodline
KIRCH BALWAKNonpoint
KRZYSZTOF ŚCIERAŃSKIVarious
LA'NAR BRANTLEY Mary J. Blidge
LANE BALDWIN Deeper Blues / Various Artists
LARRY KIMPEL Larry Carlton, Anita Baker, Tom Scott
LAYMON DAVIS Heroes
LESLIE BLOOME L.A. Bassist
MAGNUS ROSEN Hammerfall
MAHLON HAWK
MARK BROOKSVarious Artists
MARK EGAN New York Session Ace / Solo
MARK WELDON
MASSIMILIANO ATZENI(P)neumatica
MATT MINFORDSix Star Hotel
MATT VARHOLA Wayne Newton
MAURICE FITZGERALD Destiny's Child
MEL BROWN Nelson Rangell
MERLIN SHIPPY Various Artists
MICHAEL BROWN Chicago session/blues player
MICHAEL GERRY Les Miserables Touring Company
MICHAEL MANSON Brian Culbertson
MICHAEL VISCEGLIA Suzzane Vega
MICHELLE POE Michelle Poe
MICK MAHANPat Benatar
MIKE BRIGNARDELLO Nashville Studio Ace
MIKE ELAZANNO Dr. Drey, Rickie Lee Jones
MIKE GORDON Phish, Leo Kottke
MIKE WATT Minute Men
MIKEY WEISS Dance Hall Crashers
MYRON EDWINS One Four Records
NAKIA GREEN Peter's Rock Mass Choir
NATE PHILLIPS The Crusaders
OREST The Eels
OSKAR CARTAYA Spyro Gyra
PAT ELLWOOD Marshall Tucker Band
PAT FOGARTY Push Monkey
PAUL BURNETTE Darkest Hour
PAUL NOWINSKI Les Paul
PAUL THOMASGOOD CHARLOTTE
PHIL LESH The Dead, Phil & Friends
POLO JONES Zucchero, Eric Clapton, Whitney Houston
RANDY HOPE TAYLOR Incognito
RANDY JACKSON Legendary Studio Player
RANDY LANDAU Various Artists
RANDY McDONALD Tommy Castro Band
RAY McKINLEY Patti LaBelle
REV JONES Black Symphony, Michael Schenker Group
RICKY WOLKING Edgewater
ROB DEXTER The Redfelts
ROBERT KUBISZYN Various
ROCCO PRESTIA Tower Of Power, It's A Secret
RON JENKINS Various Artists
ROSS VALORY Journey
ROSS VANDER WERFTo My Surprise
ROY VOGT Englebert Humperdink
SEAN O'BRYAN SMITH Various Artists / Session Master
SETH BRASILE Bringing Down Broadway
SHARAY REED Patti LaBelle
SHAUN SMITH Billy Currington
STEVE COOK King Konga/Midajo
STEVE KIRK Mark Winston Kirk Band
STEVE VINES Mike Griffin
STEVE WILSONAM. Zeros
STUART WATKINS Various Artists
TED MAYJust Mr. / Various Artists
TERRENCE RICHBURG Various Artists
THADDEUS GRAHAM L.A.
TIM WILLIAMS John Michael Montgomery
TOM BARNEY Steely Dan/SNL
TOM DRUMMOND Better Than Ezra
TOM MICHAEL Sonicflood
TONY QUALLS Groovatron
TRAAPOD
TRACY WORMWORTH Rosie O'Donnell Show
TRES GILBERT' Johnny Gill, BBD, Millie Jackson
TROY ANTUNES Justin Timberlake
URIAH DUFFY Whitesnake
WES WATSON StrangeLand
WESLEY COLE SWITZER Various Artists/Solo
WILLI LANGER Austrian Session Artist
WILLIE WEEKS Wynonna
YOLANDA CHARLES Robbie Williams
ZACH FOWLER The James Douglas Show


will tell you otherwise. Impressive list, lots of styles represented. And as I understand it, these bassists are neither paid to endorse Eden products nor do they receive free gear from Eden. Many are gigging pretty often, too .

 

There are a few of them no longer with Eden... That is an impressive list.. i must say... but hey at least they are doing gigs that have FOH when their amp goes poop..

 

I'd suggest a GK 2001-RB. Plenty of power, can be nice and dirty if you like.

As far as your DB-112 volume issues...get a second cab and it'll be much louder. I'm sure I'll hear all kinds of flack like it'll only be 3db louder, but there is a lot more noticable bass when you add a second cab in. I don't look at paper all of the time...I let my ears do the judging.

 

I have only heard Good things on the GK 2001-RB...

Have you tried any of the Genz Benz headz... Excellent on the road and local gigs... The GBE1200 is a monster... When a crew moves it... I love it..hahah ...there is no problem.. But I still use it on local gigs too.. it is about the same weight as the aggy Db750 but far more flexible from my experience... The DB750 is one loud head and only about 33 pounds or so.. it too is a monster

 

An Aguilar DB410 sounds rediculous with a GK head running through it! That will be my next rig of choice!!! I would stick with 10" speaker on a GK, but that's just me. I think they have a great punch to them that really shows off the GK sound.

Aggie are always my cabs of choice...no matter what. That's why they have different lines and different speaker combos...

 

From a reliability,sound,bang for the buck and volume standpoint, you would be very hard pressed to beat a GK 1001rbII and an sbx 410 and 15. That is my electric bass rig now. Proir to that I used an 800rb with two trace elliott cabs and had no problems for 20 years. Trust your ears...

 

What about a Peavey Pro 2000? The Peavey brand is indestructible and there are some pretty reputable rock players using Peavey. Peavey is also known for being transparent as well as dirty. I love my current head, I just wish it had more watts...even though I don't need em right now.