In need of some inspiration

Discussion in 'Bassists [BG]' started by Staphylus, Apr 17, 2012.

  1. Staphylus

    Staphylus Guest

    Apr 17, 2012
    This is my first post, but I have lurked the forum for quite a while. So hello everyone! :)

    I have played bass for 14 years now, not always very enthusiastically but I have played in at least one band the last 10 years (I currently play in three). I studied music in "gymnasiet" (don't really know what the proper english term is, but it's the 10th to 12th year in the swedish school system), I first started playing bass in 5th grade and took lessons for two years, and my father plays the double bass.

    So I have listened to A LOT of different bass players. Classmates, teachers, band members, my father. They have all given me tips on great bass players and I have found a lot of inspiration from them.

    But now I have fallen in love with effects pedals. And I feel like I don't know that many good bass players who uses effects. I have heard bassists use dists, overdrives, fuzz, wahs, chorus etc etc. But mostly just one effect at a time, and seldom in more than the occasional track. I have heard Chris What's-his-name from Muse, Justin Chancellor from Tool and Les Claypool who are all, to some extent, a bit more ambitious with their use of effects. And I'd like to find some more of them.

    So my question to you is:
    Can you help me find some bass players who uses a lot of effects and in interesting and unique ways. In other words, help me find the bass playing equivalent of "The Edge" or Omar A Rodrigues Lopez :)

    I'd like to try something new (at least for me). So here is a link to a collaborative Spotify playlist: Dude, you´ve got to listen to this bass player! by Palle Karlsson on Spotify

    Feel free to add songs with bass players you think I might enjoy, or just answer this thread if that suits you better :)

    Thanks in advance, guys and gals, hopefully I'll be able to contribute to this awesome forum in the future.

    See ya!

    *Edit* I apologize if this topic has been discussed before. I tried finding threads about this, but couldn't find any, but I might just have been sloppy in my search.
  2. foq1978


    Aug 7, 2009
    Rio de Janeiro
    Hello and welcome!

    I urge you to listen to a band called Morphine and his bassist, Mark Sandman. Trust me, you will thank me later.

    Take care!
  3. tdub0199


    Mar 4, 2010
    Atlanta, Ga.
    Nevermind, just read your entire post... Was gonna say JC of Tool...
  4. Barca_bass

    Barca_bass Guest

    May 22, 2011
    I think Timmy C. has always used various pedals to great effect.
  5. foq1978


    Aug 7, 2009
    Rio de Janeiro
    Incidentally, since you appear to be in Sweden, could you recommend me some good music instruments stores in Stockholm?
  6. Staphylus

    Staphylus Guest

    Apr 17, 2012
    Hey! I really enjoyed Morphine, so thank you for the tip! And I learned to play the bass by playing along to RATM records, so I love Timmy C.

    Unfortunately I live in Gothenburg so I don't know any good stores in Stockholm. But I have some friends who moved there, so I can ask them.
  7. Staphylus

    Staphylus Guest

    Apr 17, 2012
  8. Robert McVey

    Robert McVey

    Apr 19, 2012
    Bend, Oregon
    Wow, that is really tough to answer.

    I really like Jaco's use of the chorus pedal and fuzz tone from his Acoustic amp. Classic sound.
    Geddy Lee uses different effects in all of the Rush albums. Lots Taurus pedal.
    Michael Manring uses various effects, but it is his use of the e-bow and his Zon Hyper-bass that has detuners for each string which create some incredible sounds from the bass that are completely unique.
    Victor Wooten uses Effects and has an incredible thumb technique.
    If there is a great "pick" bass player it would have to be Chris Squire from Yes and he uses some cool effects. Chorus, taurus, wah wah...

    Like mentioned before Morphine, Tool...

    I've always wondered what effects Geezer Butler used in Black Sabbath...???

    Cliff Burton

    In thinking, I know that there are so so many more. What is interesting is that most of these guys use the effects to enhance their sound, but all of them have techniques that make them stand out.
  9. Staphylus

    Staphylus Guest

    Apr 17, 2012
    Thank you for the answer! I think I have to go back and listen to a couple of the guys you mentioned again. I know my Jaco, Geezer, Burton and Wooten, and Tool is something of a favorite band at the moment. But I never really got in to Rush and Yes. And I've only heard Manring play in the jam session from Bass Day in 98 (I think it was).

    I feel I have a basic grasp of when to use the most common effects. And when it comes to using effects to enhance your sound and creating your tone I think that I'll have to just play around with effects for myself until I find something that suits me.

    Here is a clip i found on YouTube last night:

    Ambient bass guitar solo - YouTube

    I thought this was kind of cool, and maybe I could try to do something like this as an intro to a song, or maybe build a post rock/ambient song around it. But that's about it. But this kind of really heavy effects usage intrigues me. I think that what I'm really asking for are tips on how to incorporate very heavy effects usage in to a band setting or in a song. And I'd like to find some bassists that try to do that.
  10. Robert McVey

    Robert McVey

    Apr 19, 2012
    Bend, Oregon
    That is a different approach for sure. There so many options out there as far as effects rigs, pedals and apps for mobile devices that you can create music with your bass or as accompaniment. If you are going for the solo approach, the idea that i have is, i will work on a mode or scale till i am comfortable with it, create some melodies and learn how to improvise in that mode. Then, i will use a sequencer or create some ambient sounds on my ipad and port them out to a separate amp and improvise over that. I am messing with Animoog because i can dial in any set of keys/scale/mode to play in and create any number of cool sounds, loop them and let them roll. Too fun making stuff up and no stress on being perfect.
  11. wingmanborge

    wingmanborge Guest

    Apr 12, 2012
    If you know omar - then you are very close to juan alderete / his bassplayer - great player with the fretless and effects / he even has his own webpage with effects for bass - + 1 for mark sandman
  12. mellowgerman

    mellowgerman Supporting Member

    Jan 23, 2008
    Orlando, FL
    I like effects but find that with most pedals, my tone loses more than it gains... sometimes it's low end, sometimes it's finger/attack sensitivity, etc. So normally I'll play around with them, but I just end up going back to good old clean tone.
    With that said, I think Bootsy is one of the most interesting effect layering bassists I've come across. I wish I remembered all the details... I know there are several different amps for different purposes, fuzzes, delayes, madness, octavers, groove, and so on. Maybe another TBer can outline the rig in detail for us or post a link to it