in pursuit of a short scale/medium scale.

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by Torkk, Dec 21, 2014.

  1. Torkk


    Jan 16, 2010
    So I have an AFB 200, and love it. I'm able to play nice bass lines without too much pain or discomfort in my fretting hand.

    I checked out the Mikro at GC today, it was nice sounding and very comfy. But the body is tiny, makes me feel like im playing a toy.

    My question is this. Are there any close to normal size body short/medium scale basses?
    Would you trade in your long scale bass for a short/medium bass?

    I have SR400 and a Silvertone P bass that I defretted for my long scale. Not sure if GC would give me much for the Silvertone, but I havent tried yet.
  2. avvie


    Oct 12, 2010
    Maui, HI
  3. Hey Torkk

    I will let someone else take this one. I have heard everything I have to say a million times and I am in no mood to listen to me again!


    Help might be here if you have time:
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  4. Torkk


    Jan 16, 2010
    I dont have Birdsong money, and I read that. It doesnt answer my question about body size compared to scale.
    The Mikro has a small body. Does the jaguar have a more full size body?
  5. BoomFish

    BoomFish Supporting Member

    Nov 25, 2012

    I have a 32" Medium scale P bass that I built from Warmoth

    Their P or J bodies are 7/8 the size of a normal P or J bass body, so not much smaller than the full size body

    Also, they have three other short scale bodies to choose from: G4, G4 Single Cut and Z body

    All of their Warhead short scale necks come in 32 or 30 scale, Straight (like a Fender neck with string tree) or Tiltback and all fit all of their short scale bodies.

    So, you can have one body and get multiple necks if you wanted to go between 32 and 30 scales or straight vs tilt for example...they are standard 4 bolt necks.

    No where near Birdsong prices

    They have many wood, color etc options

    Complete bass can be had under $800 plus its fun to build it yourself
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  6. scourgeofgod


    Aug 17, 2006
  7. wvbass

    wvbass Supporting Member

    Mar 1, 2004
    West Virginia
    I had an Urge I in the mid to late 90's. I loved it, but it was so small I felt like I was playing a toy. I had some neck problems with it which resulted in me unloading it for a jazz bass. I don't regret the jazz bass for a second - I've still got it. But, I do wish I'd never parted with my Urge bass. It is simply the best Fender bass I have ever played. Fortunately, my father looks out for me. A decade or so ago, he found one for next to nothing, and kept it in storage since he got it. That bass is within arms reach of me right now.

    On the other hand, several short- and medum- scalers have decent sized bodies. My Kubicki isn't small at all, and if you like aggressive, active midrange, there is absolutely no beating that bass. The recent Fender Rascal is a full sized body with a short scale neck. I don't remember the Squier SS Jaguar being very small, either.

    But, all in all, I say that if you liked the Mikro, get the Mikro. And get over it.
  8. wvbass

    wvbass Supporting Member

    Mar 1, 2004
    West Virginia
    Torkk, you don't want this guy in your thread. He's contagious - you will end up with half a dozen medium scale basses faster than you can say "Happy the Man!"
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  9. mrufino1


    Aug 2, 2005
    Nutley, NJ
    I got a birdsong last month from the classifieds here. I sold everything I had to get it, and it was totally worth it. I hit 40 a few months ago and arthritis and some neck issues were really making gigs painful. My birdsong is 6 lbs and balances perfectly. It also sounds monstrous.

    I had an esp short scale 5 string, and also have a Hondo and a parts bass with an sx short scale neck. I gigged with those for about half of last year, and I thought they were not too bad. I sold my 2 long scale basses to get the birdsong.

    Now I can say if you think you're playing short scale full time, get something to tide you over and start saving for a birdsong, you will not regret it. It is small but does not feel like you're playing a toy. I feel like I will now have another 20 gigging years (more hopefully!) that I may not have had.
  10. AltGrendel

    AltGrendel Squire Jag SS fan. Supporting Member

    May 21, 2009
    Mid-Atlantic USA.
    Squier Jag SS.

    Check sig for details.

    Yes, I'm biased.
  11. Stinsok


    Dec 16, 2002
    Central Alabama
    Squier Modified Telecaster Basses (Black) are 199.99 at MF.
  12. 77stingray

    77stingray Supporting Member

    Oct 6, 2010
    Skjold Artist
    Also Scott Beckwith of Birdsong is now making a new model called a "short bass" $1050 shipped - look and sound nice. Solid mahogany or walnut. Great deal. There is a video on
  13. felis


    Jul 31, 2013
    Midwest, USA
    The more I play the Mikro, the more normal it feels. Seemed a little toy like at first, but it's so comfortable
    and easy to play that you forget about it after a while.
    The SS Jaguar felt that way at first too, but not as much.

    If you want a short scale (30.75") that feels big and chunky and a little heavy, but very, very solid,
    with a good sized body, check out the Hagstom HB-4. Very versatile too.
    I've had a few others too, like the Gretsch 2202 and the Cort Action Jr.

    If you like the Mikro, it's excellent bang for the buck, and I don't think it would take you long to get used to its size.
  14. 77stingray

    77stingray Supporting Member

    Oct 6, 2010
    Skjold Artist
    Here is the Short Bass page:

    The Shortbass short scale bass guitar by Scott Beckwith

  15. HomeRecordings

    HomeRecordings Guest

    Jun 7, 2014
    New Jersey
    I have a Squier VM Jaguar Short Scale and a Fender Modern Player Short Scale Jazz. Both of them feel well balanced and not "toy like" at all. I'm primarily a guitar player and I used to own a '96 Fender American Standard Precision Bass. I found it difficult to play and I decided I didn't need an American Standard for playing and home for my recordings. That's when I decided on a Short Scale. Both the Squier and the Fender sound great and where able to be setup perfectly. I have D'Addario Chromes on the Jaguar and it is VERY easy to play. Just got the Fender so it still has the roundwounds that came with it. From my experience, I can highly recommend either one of these basses.
  16. gfen


    Aug 21, 2014
    lehigh valley
    stayed at a holiday inn, once...
    Being the most comprehensive informaiton source for 32" here, you should just stick all your info into a post on the medium scale club thread or whatever it's calleed and just point people over to it; that'll not only save you the typing time but also backdoor moderate them to a place where the info probably already exists.

    Hell, stick a link in your .sig, it's worthy info that you have to type way too often.
  17. Hey gfen

    I kind of do that....

    I was really just teasing with the Groucho Marx quote above - I am pretty accessible and willing to answer any questions that anyone may have with respect to medium scalers. Ready to help when I can.

    The short scale stuff gets a little more tedious for me - I am not a short scale guy, and the difference between short and long scale is much more significant - but the rest of it, sure! By the way, I posted this yesterday on the Official Medium Scale Club and no one has responded. This is really an exceptionally rare medium scaler if anyone is interested:

    OK, so I don't normally get worked up about much these days....

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    But this is pretty special. I have one pretty much identical to this, except mine is trans black over swamp ash with a rosewood board. And, although the body on this one is definitely not my cup of tea - the neck on this bass is very rare. This is only the second medium scale Fender Japan neck I have EVER seen with a maple board and i have been keeping an eye out since 2005. There are very few of them running around. They were special order only in the '80's and very rare then.

    Fender Japan PJM Medium Scale Made in Japan Vintage Precision Jazz Bass RARE | eBay

    He has posted over 100 photos so you can really check it out.

    If I had a use for it, I would buy this one just for the neck right now, but I don't.

    Full disclosure, I have nothing in this, just passing on the fact that this is an extremely rare neck. Very interesting buy for anyone who has a Fender Japan medium scale P undersized body and wants a J neck for it. Alternatively, this seems like a nice bass on it's own merits - just not my cup of tea. As far as mine - no guarantees - but in my experience the P and J necks from this era are interchangeable. So you know, this body is NOT a standard size Fender Japan P bass body. The treble horn particularly is very short on these Jazz Special models.

    I can say that this guy comes up with quality medium scalers more than most dealers. I don't know where or how he digs them up, but I bought at least one and maybe two Fender Japan mediums from this same guy....
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