Indecision is devouring me from the inside out

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by Shalbeom, Jul 9, 2017.

  1. Shalbeom

    Shalbeom Guest

    Jun 17, 2017
    Hi, TB users!

    Another story of a newbie in search of his new toy. I started to play last october with an old and ugly precision replica, heavy and impossible to set up, it almost made me stop playing.
    Now I've finally saved enough for getting a better instrument but I don't know what to choose. The most expensive bass I can afford to buy is the Sire V7 Vintage 4st (500€), then I found some offers for a used Ibanez SR600 (435€) and then a used Ibanez SR605 (350€!).
    As you can see, that last offer seems very juicy but I feel a little bit unsure about starting with a 5 strings bass.

    Any tips?
    Thank you very much!
  2. Aberdumbie


    Jan 22, 2016
    South Carolina
    Can't give you any help on the jump to five. I'll leave that for those that have been there. What I can tell you is that Ibanez builds a great deal of quality in their offerings for a surprisingly affordable price. Enjoy the journey.
  3. bholder

    bholder Affable Sociopath Gold Supporting Member Supporting Member

    Sep 2, 2001
    Vestal, NY
    Received a gift from Sire* (see sig)
    That does sound like a deal on the Ibby SR605. I wouldn't worry about starting on a 5 - one less transition to make later. ;)
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  4. James Collins

    James Collins Guest

    Mar 25, 2017
    I started on a 5 string. It is not a problem. It makes some things easier. I have really never found it to make anything more difficult, even with the wider fingerboard.
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  5. darwin-bass

    darwin-bass Supporting Member

    Mar 29, 2013
    Salem OR
    I started with a 4. Played one for years before going to 5. It took me 6-9 months to get comfortable with the 5 since I had to basically learn the strings all over again. Starting with a 5 would have made it easier. After a year, I found that my L hand was hurting. The wider neck of the 5 was giving me issues. I went back to a 4.

    Then years later, I repeated the same experiment with the same painful results. I'm done with 5s. If I had started with a 5, I might have quit bass altogether.
  6. Killed_by_Death

    Killed_by_Death Snaggletooth Inactive

    See if you can find a used SRX505 or SRX705:


    The pickups in these slaughter the SR series, IMHO :cool:
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  7. tb4sbp


    May 9, 2017
    North East
    500 is a very good amount and opens a vast array of basses in that price range. Ibanez is a really good brand and has a lot of loyal followers. Sire basses are great for that price range too. I have an Ibanez PL5050 from 1986 and still plays amazingly great. And I just got a Sire V7 and is off the charts for playability, tone and craftsmanship. Neither are a 5 string but I would not worry if it is a 5 or 4 string you are after or can find. I would consider it a bonus if you find a 5 string as mentioned here that learning a 5 string would be an advantage but not a necessity IMO. Best of luck and in that price range I am sure you will find a great bass that furthers your playing.
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  8. Shalbeom

    Shalbeom Guest

    Jun 17, 2017
    So descouraging :( Btw those are your experience and your opinion, I'm considering and respecting them. Ty anyway!
  9. Stevorebob

    Stevorebob Well... I Am Here, Aren't I? Supporting Member

    Sep 29, 2011
    Los Angeles
    Sire and Ibanez SRs, as well as the Ibanez SRXs, are different animals. The Sire is a more “traditional” style bass in sound and feel. It's a classic Fender Jazz Bass clone, a tried and true tool of pros for 60 years. The Ibanez SRs are easy-playing, small-body, thin-neck basses with pickups and a preamp that some (me, for one) think are muddy. The SRX has a slightly larger neck than the SRs and more powerful, fatter-sounding pickups.

    I played Ibanez basses for a lot of years, then I got a Music Man Sting Ray and then a Fender Jazz, and my Ibanez SRs seemed like toys.

    Here’s my recommendation: If you want a classic bass, get a Sire. If you want easy playing, get an Ibanez. I’d go with Sire.
  10. James Collins

    James Collins Guest

    Mar 25, 2017
    Don't let one opinion discourage you. If I had to have one bass, I would make it a 5 string.

    Personally, I like it because most alternate tuning I have to play with are drop D and a 5 string with a low B accommodates this without alternate tuning. Also, you can often shift everything up the neck so it allows for what feels like a short scale bass.
  11. Shalbeom

    Shalbeom Guest

    Jun 17, 2017
    I wrote to the SR605's seller, hoping to get the chance to try the bass asap.

    My dream bass-lineup would be composed by a 5strings for the proggier/faster stuff and a J-style 4strings for gathering babes :cool:
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  12. Nev375


    Nov 2, 2010
    It would probably be easier to transition from 5 to 4 than 4 to 5.

    As you are still learning now, it would make no difference because you don't have years of experience being used to either one.
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  13. darwin-bass

    darwin-bass Supporting Member

    Mar 29, 2013
    Salem OR
    Exactly. I'm not-so-young anymore and have arthritis issues in my thumbs. I can play a 5 but it isn't comfortable so I don't. YMMV!!!!
  14. lfmn16

    lfmn16 Inactive

    Sep 21, 2011
    charles town, wv
    It's unlikely that you will choose your forever bass this early in the game. Get the Sire and dont look back. If nothing else it will have good resale value if you decide you hate it, but I wouldn't be concerned about that.

    Then get off of TalkBass and practice.
  15. ThuzzleFump

    ThuzzleFump All your bass...

    Nov 15, 2015
    I like it as a concept or title for a song.
  16. ThePresident777

    ThePresident777 Guest

    Oct 6, 2013

    I think that if you bought yourself a good book on harmony, such as Twentieth Century Harmony by Persichetti and Norton, that you would not be so reluctant to play a 5 string bass, unless it turned out that your hands find the neck uncomfortable.

    P.S. Guitar lessons are ********.
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  17. jjmuckluckjr


    Mar 24, 2015
    How you doing Shalbeom? Hey, it's your money and you can absolutely get what you want. But in my humble opinion, you'll get more use/fun out of a better 4 string. You've got enough of a budget (€1= $1.14 according to Google) to seriously upgrade. For @ 85% of all types of music you're likely to play, a 5`er is unwarranted. First, find a bass you can set up to really play. Get yourself a nice used Jazz (near perfect compromise between Precision and Richenbacher) or say a Schecter. Then join bands that challenges you. If you want to spice things up, try some effect pedals. No offense, but in 9 months, you haven't found your voice/style yet. A decent 4-banger can change your mind about where you're going. Good luck my friend.
  18. Gearhead17

    Gearhead17 Supporting Member

    May 4, 2006
    Mount Prospect, IL
    I started with a 5, still play 5's and after 17 years of playing, I am buying my first 4 string. The Ibanez basses are typically light, balance well and are easy to play. At your early stages of learning, this is the MOST important part. As others have stated, get off of Talkbass and start practicing! A teacher is a great way to start and solidify the fundamentals. If your dream setup is a 5 string for music you love, go the 5 string route. I still got women with my 5 strings! :bassist::D
  19. Badwater

    Badwater Guest

    Jan 12, 2017

    I agree, if you plan on going 5 in the future, now is the time to start. And, a good used bass with good fret job, good set up, and good feel and sound will make playing a 5 a lot more easy.
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  20. LT131


    Jan 25, 2015
    Deep South
    Without knowing where you live it is hard to advise. If you have access to any music stores I would go play as many basses as possible.

    Forget brand name, forget 4 vs. 5, forget looks, any preconceptions of what you think is right. You have a budget that will get give you a wide range of choices for a new bassist. You see the popular brands that offer quality lower priced basses and there are many really good ones. Since very few buy one bass for life don't feel that you have to use your entire budget.

    A relative beginner, IMO, should focus on feel. Neck profile, body shape, balance, weight, and setup or the ability to be properly set up. If your bass feels good and is as easy to play as possible you will progress whether it is a used Yamaha or a brand new Ibby SR???. Find what feels best. Buy. Practice and play till your needs evolve. Repeat.

    Make sure you have funds something decent to practice through. Whether it's an amp or headphone setup. It is just as important to your progress as the bass.
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