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Indie is the new mainstream?

Discussion in 'Off Topic [BG]' started by ahkiatt, Jul 2, 2008.

  1. ahkiatt


    Sep 30, 2006
    Recently, I came across a posting in a local forum saying that the indie band, Death Cab for Cutie was coming to Singapore. I was pretty surprised and pleased as I find some of their songs pretty enjoyable, and to top that off, a beautiful girl agreed to go with me. But before I could get the tickets, I found out that they had sold out in 2 day. :crying:

    So how are we supposed to consider a band like them indie, if they are selling out 1600 seater concert halls and have a huge record company(Atlantic records) behind them? Or is it just another "genre" which they use to fool masses of brainless teenagers into thinking that they are cool because they aren't following the mainstream when they actually are.
  2. Rune Bivrin

    Rune Bivrin Supporting Member

    Oct 2, 2006
    Huddinge, Sweden
    Well, what does 'Indie' mean? It's short for independent, right? Who would want to label themselves 'Dependent'?

    "Yeah, we're kind of a deppie, nu-metal band, like you know"
  3. Timbo


    Jun 14, 2004
    I think death cab for a cutie is kinda the more mainstream of all of the indie bands.
  4. Yeah, Death Cab is huuuge.
  5. everything is pretty much mainstream,
  6. I think "Indie" has become a style of music regardless of how popular the band is or which label its on.
  7. I mean this in the least -crass way possible (not egotistically), but isn't anything *noteable* and American in re: to pop culture a "big deal" in Asian countries? Not to mention that yeah, Death Cab is huge right now, considering....
  8. ubado


    Mar 7, 2007

    IMO ... the 90's brought about this change in what "Indie" actually means. Large record companies were grabbing numerous actual "Indie" (small record companies) artists and signing them to big contracts, while keeping the artists "Indie" sound. It was also beginnings of widespread smaller record companies (Indie-esque) that were controlled/owned by larger ones.

    Nowadays it seems that "Indie-esque" artists are not the "signed" struggling bands that they were before.
  9. Bruce Lindfield

    Bruce Lindfield Unprofessional TalkBass Contributor Gold Supporting Member In Memoriam

    Indie is mainstream - they play it on (BBC) Radio 2!! :p
  10. jazzy grille

    jazzy grille - Arrogant Bastard

    Aug 15, 2006
    Sarasota, Florida
    Indie is mainstream now.

    Just like what happend to punk after the 80's.
  11. Shhhh, don't tell the indie kids.

  12. ahkiatt


    Sep 30, 2006
    Don't worry, they won't listen to me, they're too cool for that.
  13. WickedPissah


    Jan 22, 2008
    "Alternative" is a dead term. Alternative has become the mainstream.
  14. sarcastro83


    Jul 27, 2007
    Toronto, ON
    ubado and WickedPissah are absolutely right. It's become a term used to describe a musical aesthetic rather than a description of how it's made, produced, and distributed.

    That said, when I hear the word "indie" these days, I automatically assume "laughably bad". Not exactly my thing.
  15. Bruce Lindfield

    Bruce Lindfield Unprofessional TalkBass Contributor Gold Supporting Member In Memoriam

    What that means is that Indie is doomed to repeat itself now - so if a band tries to develop or change - then it will be deemed not to be Indie!

    Whereas, with other terms that apply to the music - e.g Jazz - it is possible to develop.

    So we know that Jazz means improvised music and so it is possible to develop within that "framework".

    But "Indie" has no intrinsic, musical meaning - so to be "Indie" all you can do is copy previous Indie bands...:meh:
  16. It seems that in the last ten years indie has just been another word for "lo-fi" imo
  17. Your clock is about 8 years slow. :cool:

    Edit: Other terms that IMO have changed meaning(or at least popular perception)through misuse:
    Jive in place of jibe
    Old school/old skool
  18. Kosko

    Kosko Supporting Member

    Dec 12, 2005
    Eh, the longer i play music, the more it all just becomes that; music. It all blends together into a pool of notes and patterns.
  19. +1
  20. EricF

    EricF Habitual User

    Sep 26, 2005
    Pasadena, CA
    Definitely. DCFC made a lot of albums on small labels and were an "indie" band when the term actually referred to bands on independent labels or doing it themselves (guitar player Chris Walla still does the mixing and production). As the style of music gained popularity, bigger labels started paying attention and realized that there's money to be made. These days, "indie" is just a sub-genre of rock. Within the genre, however, there seems to be an asthetic that is really about making music, rather than becoming a rock star.

    I saw DCFC last Monday in LA at a 7,000 seat arena. They sounded great and the place was filled with people who were into the music. As a band, what more can you ask for?

    To each, their own. There's music out there for everyone. To me, there is a lot of fantasic music being made in under the "indie" umbrella.