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Input and help needed...

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by Sir_Munkey, Dec 2, 2001.


  1. Sir_Munkey

    Sir_Munkey Guest

    May 4, 2001
    Canada
    Okay, I know that topics similar to this (if not identical) have been posted in the past, BUT, I haven't seen 'em.

    I'm looking into getting a new bass, seeing as how currently I'm just borrowing one from my Uncle. The problem is, I don't know what to get. There have been about 20 times I've told myslef that I've made up my mind. I've wanted P-Basses, 58 Korina Flying-V, J-Basses, Wasburn, Ibanez, Yamaha, Epiphone, Gibson....... you name it, I've wanted it. I really can't make up my mind though.

    What I need from all you guys 'n Gals out there is just a little bit of info I have had trouble finding. Such as the cost of some basses. Opinions and suggestions are welcome and wanted also. To begin with, despite my efforts, I have not been able to find the suggested retail price of the Ibanez EDB 600, a bass that interests me. I haven't been able to find the suggested retail price of the Epiphone Les Paul Standard, another one that interests me.

    Any thoughts and input is very much appreciated, thanks in advance.

    Munkey :confused:
     
  2. Munjibunga

    Munjibunga Total Hyper-Elite Member Gold Supporting Member

    May 6, 2000
    San Diego (when not at Groom Lake)
    Independent Contractor to Bass San Diego
    OK, here's a few to take off your list. It'll simplify things a bit. You don't want a "one-trick pony." So no Flying V's, no Gibson basses. Epiphone is just a Korean Gibson, so no Epiphone. You don't want a bass that sucks, so no Ibanez, for sure. Many think of P-basses as one-trick, too. Forget 'em. Washburn? Nobody uses 'em.

    OK, so MIA or MIM J-basses, or quality copies are good. Yamaha makes some good models. Lotsa good press on G&L's but I've never played one. Carvin if you must.
     
  3. masaru

    masaru

    Aug 8, 2001
    Okinawa, Japan
    On the Ibanez front, forget the EDB600 and check out an ATK. They have a wide range of tonal possibilities and play very well. Depending on your budget, also check out models by G&L, MIJ Fenders and Rickenbacker.
     
  4. Sir_Munkey

    Sir_Munkey Guest

    May 4, 2001
    Canada
    Okay, Munjibunga, that would certainly narrow down my list a bit, BUT, I disagree on some parts there, I do think that P-Basses are good, I've played many. I also like alot of Ibanez basses, some of them sound great. Epiphone and Gibson also.

    Masaru, you mentioned the budget thing, I guess I forgot to mention that originally, I meant to say between the 500 and 700 dollar area. I've been trying to find stuff out about Rickenbacker (or however you spell that), but I can't find their website, and I can't find out anything else about them.

    Anyways, thanks both of you for the input.

    Munkey a little less :confused: now.
     
  5. rickreyn

    rickreyn

    Jun 16, 2000
    Lutz, Florida
    Universally it seems you can't go wrong with a Fender Jazz. It doesn't seem to matter if its metal or country, the bassist is likely to have a Jazz. If you are tortured trying to fiqure it all out, do yourself a favor and get a Jazz. I wish I had from the very start and eliminated all the junk. I do recommend Carvin. Good buy for the buck, especially if you intend to get a MIA.
     
  6. 72beetle

    72beetle

    Jun 10, 2001
    Phoenix, Arizona
    Speaking as not only a multiple-bass owner but also as a Rickenbacker owner, I can honestly say it's the best money I ever spent on a bass. Lots of people say they're limited in tone, but I've found it to be quite the opposite - I can squeeze a huge range of sounds out of my 4003, and the only tonal limitation I've found is that the mids and highs are just a shade more ballsy than the lows - and I mean just a shade. It has a nice fat bottom, but an even fatter midrange. The neck is stupid-fast, and once I took the horseshoe pickup cover off, it's the most comfortable bass I've ever touched. I haven't tried picking it, but it slaps great and fingers great.

    The only problem I've ever had with it was that the neck is so thin, that I tended to pull the G string off the bottom of the freboard, but after a couple of days, that problem went away, it was just bad technique on my part.

    You could definitely put me in the 'satisfied customer' category.

    Oh, BTW, the official Rickenbacker website is at http://www.rickenbacker.com :)

    -72
     
  7. rickreyn

    rickreyn

    Jun 16, 2000
    Lutz, Florida
    Now my personal preference has always been the Ric. For the masses, the J seems to be the standard. There is no real comparison in quality. The Ric wins hands down.
     
  8. SRSiegel

    SRSiegel Guest

    Sep 17, 2001
    Ann Arbor, Michigan
    One of the most versatile basses I could think of would be a J bass or good copy with an active/passive preamp and good pickups in it. If youre not into modifying a bass, I would highly suggest you look at the Ibanez ATK as well, Ive got one, and I love it. it can get a tone very similar to a stingray, also to an active J bass with the rear pickup soloed. It functions well for me in a classic rock cover band, and it slaps wonderfully. fingerstyle, slap, or pick(only done it once) it sounds great.
     
  9. Sir_Munkey

    Sir_Munkey Guest

    May 4, 2001
    Canada
    Thanks again for all the input guys, but I still have a problem. After I checked out the Rickenbacker site, I still can't find the pricing. I was wondering if anyone out there would know the suggested retail price of the 4003, after checking out the site, and hearing that description by 72beetle (and one from another friend of mine) I already think it's way high up on my list. Just hoping that I can figure out how much it'd cost me (if I could even afford it.).

    Anyways, I've always been considering J-Basses, especially this nice Midnight Blue 5 string down at Ed's... It looks and sounds sweet, but I'm not sure if thats what I'm really looking for. More info on Ric's would be appreciated also, thanks again.

    Munkey, just a tiny little bit :confused:ed now
     
  10. 72beetle

    72beetle

    Jun 10, 2001
    Phoenix, Arizona
    I got my Ric from a music store (Bizarre Guitar in Phx) for $1050 out the door (tax included)... Suggested retail on 'em is in the $1700 range, I think, but you can usually find someone willing to cut a deal to move stock. You can also find them pretty regularly new on eBay for around $800 - $900, and used for $700 or less.

    I prefer to buy from a brick and mortar business, so I can go in and actually play the thing before I lay down cash. Rickenbacker makes a mighty bass, but like any quality instrument, there are differences between each one - and you want to buy the one that feels perfect in your hands and ears. Try a few different ones, and pick the one that you like best. Even at full suggested retail price, they're worth every penny and more!

    Peace out,
    -72
     
  11. embellisher

    embellisher Holy Ghost filled Bass Player Staff Member Supporting Member

    Guitar Center sells them for around $1100, but you might get them a little cheaper if you are a good haggler.
     
  12. b0nes83

    b0nes83

    Dec 14, 2000
    what ever fits you the best. your buying it so it doesnt matter what we say to you. if you like it and we say we dont...do you think you whont buy it becuase someone said it sucked? go for what you like. if all else fails...get a cirrus. peace
    Chad
     
  13. Sir_Munkey

    Sir_Munkey Guest

    May 4, 2001
    Canada
    Again, I hate to be pestering you guys, but, uh, my biggest problem is there isn't anyone here who has Ric's in stock, and anyone who usually does. All the places I go to would hafta order one in, and most places I know wouldn't do that without a commitment to buy it on my part... and if it'd cost me more than 1200 bucks, theres no way I could do that.............. so I don't really have much of an opportunity to try one out, ALTHOUGH, I have heard many many recordings of them on their own, and was not at all dissapointed.

    About what b0nes83 said, I agree, although, I find that hearing from other bassists helps me clear my head...

    Thanks again guys.

    Munkey
     
  14. 72beetle

    72beetle

    Jun 10, 2001
    Phoenix, Arizona
    Well, if you're POSITIVE that the Ric is what you're looking for, and you can't try one out locally before you buy it, you may as well get one online - it's the same scenario (pay and wait), but online will be cheaper. It doesn't say much about your local music stores if they won't even keep a Rickenbacker in stock... :)

    Just make sure it's what you really want - like I said, it's the most comfortable bass I've ever played, and I love the sounds that come out of it, but it WAS a drastic change from the natty Yamaha P-bass copy I'd been playing for 7 or 8 years before.. and it took a bit of adjustment to my style going from something so klunky and forgiving to something so sleek and precise. If you're ready to take that step, then by all means, go for it. If not, get something that you CAN lay hands on, and hold off on the Ric until a future date when you can fool around on one for a while first!

    -72
     
  15. I wouldn't pay more than that $900 range (pre-tax of course) on a Ric. seeing them at this price is not by any means an oddity. of course, I'm talking about the 4003. I have no idea about any of the others. I just couldn't get into the feel of the 4003 though.

    definitely check out G&L. those basses sound great and play really well. I checked out an ASAT and it was one of the most comfortable basses I've ever played - neckwise anyway.
     
  16. Sir_Munkey

    Sir_Munkey Guest

    May 4, 2001
    Canada
    Yesterday, I was visiting one of my less visited guitar/music stores, and I played an Ibanez BTB... IT WAS AMAZING!!!!!!!!:cool:

    After playing this thing, I can't believe I was considering a P-Bass or a J-Bass! :eek: (not that they're bad basses, hell, they're SWEET basses, but this Ibanez was SWEETER). It could do so much more than any Fender I've played. I could get a really REALLY fat, heavy sound out of it, or I could get a nice, higher, more precise snappy sound out of it. It was amazing. Only(?) 800 clams. It'll take me a while to be able to afford it, but I think I've FINALLY made up my mind. Thanks again all you guys out there.

    Munkey not at all :confused: anymore.