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Installing a BadAss II on MIM Jazz

Discussion in 'Hardware, Setup & Repair [BG]' started by RAM, Jun 3, 2001.


  1. RAM

    RAM

    May 10, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    So, I decided to take the plunge, and since I'm no expert in guitar repairs, I took my Jazz into a local shop that's been recommended by some shops around. I asked them to install a BadAss II on my jazz, here's what they said:

    The slots on the bridge had to be cut in a way so that the strings would not form a straight line from the end of the bridge, through the bridge slot, and up to the nut. In other words, they claimed that in order to space the string correctly off the edge of the fingerboard, the string has to be pulled outward. It looks weird. Can this be correct?
     
  2. I didn't do anything like that. It could be that the bridge holes were drilled off-center at the factory, and filing the slots weird was the only way to get the strings to line up with the neck right. But as far as string spacing goes, if you cut a groove in the middle of the saddles, it's pretty much right. They may have been more worried about it than I was, or they may have a legitimate concern that I didn't realize. Here's mine. All I did was center the string grooves in the badass2 saddle blocks and as you can see, it follows the neck edge pretty good. If your strings follow the neck edge pretty good, then they did it right.

    Chris

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  3. rickbass

    rickbass Supporting Member

    I ordered an ABM, since they're adjustable string width/spacing, instead of a Leo Quann, and was done with it.
     
  4. Nino Valenti

    Nino Valenti Commercial User

    Feb 2, 2001
    Staten Island NYC
    Builder: Valenti Basses
    I don't see that as a problem. When I built my Warmoth Jazz, I had to do the same thing when I put the BadAss II on it. If the grooves are filed deep enough, you shouldn't have a problem!!!!

    <img src="http://www.talkbass.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=446">

    This pic is of it incomplete, but it has been completed & IT ROCKS!!!!! It's now my main passive bass!!!!
     
  5. RAM

    RAM

    May 10, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    Well, this place did it horribly! They tried to argue that the string spacing was correct, even when I proved it was off with a ruler!

    I'm really disenchanted, thus far, because nothing on this bridge seems to line up, the way they installed it. I'm not sure that the bridge itself is bad, though it could be, but this place is currently redoing it. All I know is that if they don't get it right, then they can keep fixing!
     
  6. Brad Johnson

    Brad Johnson Commercial User

    Mar 8, 2000
    Gaithersburg, Md
    Boom Bass Cabinets, DR strings
    On a 4 srting Jazz I've never seen it cut that way. Did you buy the bridge from them?
     
  7. RAM

    RAM

    May 10, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    Yes, I bought it from them.

    BTW: It's a place called "Bob's Guitar Service".
     
  8. soularis

    soularis

    Jul 3, 2003
    Illinois, USA
    How much does it usually cost to let the luthier install the BadAss bridge? Is it worth doing it on your own? Thanks.
     
  9. It's worth doing it on your own......ONLy if you know what you are doing. If you take it to a pro-tech and they mess it up, it's up to them to fix it or make it right. However, if you do it yourself you are stuck with "your" work!

    I do all my own work but heck, I've been doing it for 25 years now. I still have a few fixes that I leave to the pro- techs.

    ;) Treena
     
  10. soularis

    soularis

    Jul 3, 2003
    Illinois, USA
    Yeah, but how much would they charge? Approximately?
     
  11. Prahainspring

    Prahainspring

    Oct 22, 2002
    New Jersey
    It might differ between them, but the local guy here charged me twenty bucks with a set-up and other things. I put it on my MIM J and the bass seems to have more clarity and sustain and more growl.
     
  12. soularis

    soularis

    Jul 3, 2003
    Illinois, USA
    Thanks man. That seems very reasonable. I want to put it on the fretless MIM jazz to see if it improves the bass in any way.
     
  13. Mike Money

    Mike Money Banned

    Mar 18, 2003
    Bakersfield California
    Avatar Speakers Endorsing Hooligan
    if it has "bob" in the name, it is a safe bet that you should stay away from it. far away.
     
  14. Mike N

    Mike N Missing the old TB

    Jan 28, 2001
    New York
    I fixed it for you. ;)
     
  15. Whose Bob?

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    Treena
     
  16. Mike N

    Mike N Missing the old TB

    Jan 28, 2001
    New York
    Bobs Guitar Service, which apparently is the place that installed the bridge on RAM's Bass.
     
  17. Gottcha......I read that too!

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    Treena
     
  18. soularis

    soularis

    Jul 3, 2003
    Illinois, USA
    Yeah I was wondering who that Bob guy was. :eek: It looks like on new MM4 and Geddy there are no lines drilled for the strings? I'll try to fool around with it.
     
  19. Scot

    Scot Supporting Member

    Mar 20, 2004
    Pacifica, CA, USA
    I know it's an old thread but I figure I'll post anyway just in case someone else is installing a Badass II on a MIM J. I have the same situation on my MIM J with a Badass II. The "E" and "A" string saddles need to be notched up from center so that the strings line up in the middle of the pole pieces on my Dimarzio UltraJazz pups and so that they are centered on the neck.
     
  20. Personally I'd be more concerned with the string spacing on the fingerboard. I've been through several Jazz basses and have performed this mod on all of them, always with a Badass II.
    Pickups are rarely mounted exactly for a perfect witness point so I wouldn't checking there at all. I've always used the end of the fingerboard for that. Fender bridge holes aren't exactly drilled either, so when installing a Badass, you may find that the string travel will angle outwards (especially on the E and A saddles) moreso than the other strings. That's why the saddles are left blank, so you can position the strings exactly where you want them.