Interesting story about Carol Kaye

I think she's on solid ground- such an obvious depiction demands her permission, and in my opinion, a fee.

Nothing but good things for me to say about Ms. Kaye-

 

Interesting that you bring this up, because we're watching season 3 right now. In one scene in a Miami club when Shy Baldwin is singing, there is Carole Keen playing electric bass while at the same time, there's a upright player playing behind her. As a bassist, I was shocked. That made no sense to have both, because you wouldn't be able to hear the upright over the electric.

 

The show takes place in 1960, and Carol hadn't switched over from guitar to bass at that point. If they wanted to be historically correct, she should be on hollowbody jazz guitar, with another musician playing the upright bass.

 

If you saw a character on TV or in a movie who is obviously based on you but portrayed in a less than flattering or truthful way, you probably wouldn’t be very happy either.

 

she's 84. she's a little cranky. big whup!

good move on her part to create a dust-up, however.

 

Well, it seems rather obvious Kaye’s approval/permission wasn’t requested,so I don’t blame her for being riled. (Although i do enjoy the show, and thought the characterization was mostly positive.)
Kaye might’ve objected to some of the dialogue about one night stands/road rules....

 

No, you don't need someone's permission to base a fictional character on them. Carole Kaye may consider it "slander" but she didn't say she was going to sue, which is good, because she would have no case.

 

I saw this Esquire article first and definitely wondered what Carol had to say about the whole thing. Now we know!

Carole Keen Bassist From 'Marvelous Mrs. Maisel' Is Inspired By Real-Life Musician Carol Kaye

 

Carol Kaye reminds me of my mother.
Whether you like it or not, you will hear her opinion and she will tell it how she sees it, politically correct or not.
My mom's a little older but I kind of like Carol Kaye for that. She's direct and frank.
We let some men tell terrible things so why not reciprocate? Further more what Carol says can be a little outrageous at times but never terrible. Edgy is how I would frame it.
All that does not take away the fact that she is a trailblazer, a pioneer and a marvelous musician.
And yes she does not keep her opinions to herself.

 

Every story regarding Carol has a level of interesting.

 

Yep. She's a legend. Yep. She made history for both women and music in general. Yep. She's ridiculously talented. Yep. She was a consummate pro. I get it.

But I am so bored with the chip on her shoulder. Famous people get "picked on" and shown in a bad light in movies and TV all the time. Most handle it with class.

I used to hold her up on a very high pedestal. Now I simply roll my eyes at the very mention of her name. Bitter much?

Teach your lessons. Sell videos and books to your legions of rabid disciples. Accept awards and honorary degrees. Do interviews. Sign autographs. Enjoy your success and freaking RELAX! Oy!

It doesn't even matter to me at this point if some of her gripes and pissing and moaning is "justified". To be sure ALL of it can't be.

She's either really tough (as she claims) or ridiculously thin skinned. But you can't be both.

Yawn....

 

What's more interesting is she starts out playing lefty and then as the show goes on she's playing righty. Now that's some talent right there. Ha!

 

Always loved Carol Kaye's work. Right up there with James Jamerson in my book. Just wish Jamerson was still with us too. He was a year younger.

The soundtrack of my youth, along with McCartney, John Paul Jones, Squire and Geddy.

 

Mel Brooks wrote a check to Heddy Lamar.

no class in hollywood anymore.

 

Yeah, that Carol Keen is the Inigo Montoya of bassists!

 

That was a fairly common thing in studio tracking (DB + EB + Bass VI sometimes), at least in LA and Nashville, but not live. Clearly the script writers watched youtube vids of the Beach Boys' studio sessions.

Actual facts are uncommon in TV and film productions, same as it ever was. Stories are too boring...

 

That has nothing to do with class. Her lawsuit was BS but the studio gave her a small settlement just to make it go away. Brooks' revenge was to add that great line to the script, "This is 1874! You'll be able to sue her!"

 

Is there another source besides this one? The New York Post is a tabloid, I wouldn't take anything they publish too seriously without another corroborating source.

 

She knows something we don’t know.