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Is a 6x10 better than 4x10 ?

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by FearandLoathing, Nov 26, 2001.


  1. For christmas I am getting a Ampeg SVT-350 Classic and I dont know whether I should get a SVT 6x10 or a SVT 4x10 could someone please tell me the main differences.
    is the 6x10 really worth the extra cash???

    Oh ya im gonna need to play over a MARSHALL100MG or a Mesa Single rec will my new amp work???
     
  2. why wont anyone respond to my threads?
     
  3. PJR

    PJR

    Jun 20, 2001
    N.E. PA
    ...all components being equal....

    The 6-10 will have higher output .
    More useable lows.
    Greater power handling abilities.

    It will be a bit heavier, though probably take up the same amount of floor space.

    I have an SWR Goliath sr.......and swear by it.

    Peter
     
  4. Hategear

    Hategear Workin' hard at hardly workin'.

    Apr 6, 2001
    Appleton, Swissconsin
    I ended up with a 6x10 instead of a four, because the four I looked at was an 8-ohm cab and the six was a 4-ohm -- I wanted another 4-ohm cabinet to match my existing 4-ohm 1x15. I do like the 6x10, but would probably have preferred the (I'm sure) lighter 4x10 -- especially on gig day, when I have to haul that damn thing across the basement, up a flight of stairs, across the kitchen, down the back porch stairs, into the van and eventually into the bar where the gig has been booked! :( Sure it's got some wheels on it, but what good are they with all of those stairs involved? Ohhhhh, my back!

    If the price is right, why not spring for two more speakers? Bigger really is better (insert Tim Allen man-grunt here).
     
  5. I have a Goliath Sr. also... I love the way it sounds, but there are times that I wish I had a 4x10 and a 2x10 instead. Just for the versatility... there are time when six tens is just way too much.

    (well, way too much for me...) ;)
     
  6. leper

    leper

    Jun 21, 2001
    this is gonna sound absolutely bizaree, but i feel that a 6x10 is alot easier to move than a 4x10.

    First, they have wheels so you can roll them across flat land. Yeah, you can get casters etc for a 4x10, but, you need to bend way down to push them which is just really uncomfortable compared to just walking normally with your cab in front of you.

    Second, climbing stairs...while still annoying, if you step the cabinet up one step at a time it wont hurt your back at all, and actually be pretty easy. Unfortunately, going down is pretty much impossible to do this way, so youre kinda screwed there.

    My vote goes for the 6x10...only thing harder about movin them is goin down stairs by yourself (but its not any harder than goin down with a marshall 4x12) while they actually are a bit easier to move in some ways. Theyre louder, have more usuable lows, and, um are better :D...oh, and they look cool :p
     
  7. Justin V

    Justin V

    Dec 27, 2000
    Alameda, CA
    It depends on where you're gonna be hauling the thing to an from. All of my gear is in my garage, so moving it to my dad's truck isn't hard at all. I say go with the 6-10. If it's too loud (is that possible?? :p ), you could always turn it down.

    Just my .02
     
  8. jcadmus

    jcadmus

    Apr 2, 2000
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe a 6X10 is "two" better than a 4x10.

    No?

    :D
     
  9. I do agree that the 6 is kind of easier to move... and yes you can just turn down, but there are times when I've played with acoustic guitars only, and 6x10's even turned down would have been overkill. I would have liked to have a 2x10 for those kind of shows...

    Everything else I want 6! :D
     
  10. BigBohn

    BigBohn

    Sep 29, 2001
    WPB, Florida
    get a 4x10 and a 2x10 if you really need 6x10 in total. 4x10 is more versatile, esp. if its 8 ohms due to impedance loads with other cabs if you have. If you just need 1 cab, then get a good 6x10.
     
  11. mchildree

    mchildree Supporting Member

    Sep 4, 2000
    AL/GA
    Agreed on all counts. I have a Goliath Sr. also, and wouldn't go back to toting a 4x10. The thing will get louder than I'll ever need, but still sounds great at lower volumes.
     
  12. slacker

    slacker

    Nov 27, 2001
    Portland Oregon
    Just curious, but what would the individual impedance of each driver in a six driver array be? Do you have to use custom drivers, or can it be done with 6-8 Ohm speakers and a little fancy wiring?
     
  13. brewer9

    brewer9

    Jul 5, 2000
    The easier to move thing is debatable, and it depends on what vehicle you have to lug it around in. If you have a small car then go with the 4, if a truck go with the 6.
     
  14. Yeah, that tilt thing with the towel rack makes a 610 easy to move, but my car is small, and the 410 barely fits in the passenger seat. I have a 4x10 and a 2x8, which gives me a few options for what to bring. I like how the 4x10 gets real low, but ofentimes I am lazy and just bring the 2x8. I might be a little more motivated to bring the big one if it had wheels and a towel rack and tilted back .
     
  15. CrawlingEye

    CrawlingEye Member

    Mar 20, 2001
    Easton, Pennsylvania

    Why? Just get a b2r, it's the same thing, and less expensive.
     
  16. because the because the B2R is more likely to break due to its small size and a 2 rack SKB case and the B2R would be the same amount as the SVT(and the SVT looks cooler:cool: )
     
  17. CrawlingEye

    CrawlingEye Member

    Mar 20, 2001
    Easton, Pennsylvania

    What? :confused: :rolleyes:

    The b2r is pretty much the same thing!
    You don't need a case for it, unless you have a rack, really.
    It's not going to affect how long it lasts, either, unless you casually drop your head, and roll it down steps, or use it as a sled, in the winter.

    They're the same thing, it's just that one's more expensive and comes in an incredibly larger case.

    I mean, suit yourself, but there's no difference in tone, and no difference in how long it'll last.

    I, personally, would not throw money in the toilet. :)
     
  18. I'd go with the 4x10 and later add a 2x10 if the 4x10 can't quite cut it. If you want to just play around at someone else's house lugging that 6x10 over is gonna suck. That's where the 2x10 comes in.
     
  19. Ty McNeely

    Ty McNeely

    Mar 27, 2000
    TX
    I was just looking....

    On the <a href="http://www.ampeg.com">Ampeg</a> site, they show the SVT-410HLF as being 110 pounds, and the SVT-610HLF as being 115 pounds. And I would think a larger cab that didn't weigh but just a few pounds more WOULD be easier to move than a smaller, almost-as-heavy cab.

    The 610 also handles 200 more watts. However, the freq. response of the 410 is 48-18k, while the 610 is 53-18k. So, the 410 might be better if you play a 5 string, simply because of the lower freq. response. But, the 610 can handle more power and obviously would be louder.

    Transport is definitely a factor here as well.......
     
  20. :) okay thank you for everyones opinions I have decided to get the 6x10 mainly because its more expandable if i get other heads THANK YOU EVERYONE CANT WAIT TILL CHRISTMAS!!!:( :) :)