Is a good slap sound possible with a MIM JAZZ

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by FatFunker, Sep 28, 2001.

  1. FatFunker

    FatFunker Guest

    Sep 6, 2001
    Rochester, New York
    I Have a 2001 MIM Jazz I have done nothing to the bass. My question is, is it possible to get a good slap sound out of this thing stock or do I need to get new strings,pickups,bridge,neck,body,paint,tuning keys,volume knobs etc.... Or is it just me who sucks?
    My amp is an ampeg b2r and my cab is an ampeg 4x10, I have spent hours trying to set my eq and tones so I know that is not the probleme. Should I quit wasting my time and go get New PUPS and BADASS 2, If so what pickups (for that slappy sound) Thanks for any input:D
     
  2. PollyBass

    PollyBass ******

    Jun 25, 2001
    Shreveport, LA
    Is a good slap sound possible with a MIM Jazz? your kidding right? well if your not,,,jez...other than improvign your techince...maybe some compersion? and you do have mids right? if you dont. use some....other than that....im dumbfouded that someone cant get a good slap tone out of ANY jazz Bass.
     
  3. Josh Ryan

    Josh Ryan - that dog won't hunt, Monsignor. Supporting Member

    Mar 24, 2001
    Paint, you really need new paint.:D :D Technique and strings are what I'd look at first, good luck.
     
  4. Rafterman

    Rafterman Guest

    Nov 29, 2000
    Los Angeles, CA.
    like what he said...

    high highs and high lows...not too much mids.

    too much kids makes it too harsh and you lose a lot of smoothness to your sound
     
  5. Rafterman

    Rafterman Guest

    Nov 29, 2000
    Los Angeles, CA.
    *mids
     
  6. RS

    RS

    Aug 27, 2000
    Cleveland, OH
    Even stock, good technique and proper setup with good strings will get you an above average slap tone on a MIM jazz. Too bad guitar center (or any other place) doesn't sell technique in a can. I'd pay anything for it!
     
  7. Luis Fabara

    Luis Fabara

    Aug 13, 2000
    Ecuador (South America)
    Audio Pro - Ecuador
    1) A good low Action Setup is a must.
    2) Good Strings (Fresh!!)
    3) Lotsa Lows and Ultra-Highs (Enable that tweeter to Full)
    4) Cut some mids..
    5) Use both Pickups.
     
  8. :confused:

    I've never understood this logic (or lack thereof).

    I BOOST my upper mids a bit when I am slapping, helps me punch through a mix well, and I've never had a complaint that my tone was too harsh. It's a matter of choosing the RIGHT mids to boost.

    I've got an EMG 3-band EQ on my 6's that allows me to cut/boost and sweep the mids, so I just crank up the mids and sweep it until I find the "sweet" spot for the room (that is if I'm gonna be slapping on that gig, not much of that going on lately though). When I'm playing, I leave the mids flat for most stuff, just turn them up to cut through. Anytime I cut mids, I feel like I get lost in the mix.
     
  9. embellisher

    embellisher Holy Ghost filled Bass Player Supporting Member

    What kind of strings are you using?

    You can get a decent slap sound from flatwound or black nylon strings, but it requires more work and better technique to get it.

    For in your face slap, roundwounds are essential, and if you want high end zing, you need stainless steel roundwounds.
     
  10. id recomend u buy some stainless steel fender strings. they give a great slapping sound and they last longer than nickel ones. thats what i use. try slapping without running it throught the amp. thatll give u a better idea as to whether ur amp is crap or ur strings.
     
  11. Aaron

    Aaron

    Jun 2, 2001
    Seattle, WA
    Do they sell courage? If they don't, i'm off to see the wiz.
     
  12. RS

    RS

    Aug 27, 2000
    Cleveland, OH
    I just slightly scoop the mids, or alot of times, not at all. I turn down the treble often, depending on the life of my strings. I don't like that brittle high end sound. I prefer a thicker, more old school slap sound. I use for slap an MIA fender jazz with a maple board and alder body, Demeter preamp, and Eden XLT 4-10.
     
  13. PollyBass

    PollyBass ******

    Jun 25, 2001
    Shreveport, LA
    Im with gard, why no mids? i make SURE i boost some mids. not all. but still mids. I thought you WANTED mids for a good slap tone?
     
  14. me too, i don't like to cut mids. i actually like to cut the highs, because it can get pretty harsh when popping and such.
     
  15. ldiezman

    ldiezman Guest

    Jul 11, 2001
    Nashville
    I guess it is different for everyone's ear and particular bass. but on my ray 5, I usually up the mids and cut out some treble.. i used to turn the mids way down, the bass way up, and the treble slightly below the bass... that sounded bad... but now i gotta have that ray sound
     
  16. phogchris

    phogchris www.scarsoflife.com

    May 27, 2000
    Boca Raton, FL
    I cut a little at 800Hz, I like the way it sounds....
     
  17. j3b3r

    j3b3r Guest

    Aug 19, 2000
    EMG jazz PUs and Badass II

    that would be all
     
  18. jbass27

    jbass27 Guest

    May 4, 2001
    St. Louis, MO
    With the rig you have I would just back the mids down a hair, and turn up the bass and treble on the amp. Then, make sure you have good strings, roundwound, stainless, are best. Make sure you have both pickups all the way up and turn the tone on the bass all the way up. That should do what you want.
     
  19. FatFunker

    FatFunker Guest

    Sep 6, 2001
    Rochester, New York
    Thanks for all the help guys I got some new stainless fender strings this weekend WOW what a difference, I guess I should have done this alot sooner. PUPS and Badass II are one the way:D
     
  20. uglybassplayer

    uglybassplayer

    Aug 24, 2001
    New Jersey
    There seems to be two "schools" of slap tone... the hifi jazz slap (scooped mids), and the old school funk slap (accentuated mids). It's all good...