I keep listening to my drummer and guitarist make songs and the tempo is always fast. I try to tell them things like 'less is more' and 'try using less chords and slowing down' but they just don't listen. Why are they so darn stubborn? Who implied it was a necesity to play fast and act like a prodigy of their instruments? Does anyone else have to deal with the problem of stubborn drummers and guitarists who just try to cram so much into one song and all it comes out like is horse crap?