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Is It Safe To Hook Up A Bugera Veyron M Amp To These Cabs??

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by canteenboy, Jun 19, 2017.


  1. canteenboy

    canteenboy

    Jan 30, 2007
    I'm planning on heading to guitar center tomorrow and buying a new Bugera Veyron M for my cabs. One Peavy 1810 and a Behringer Ultrabass BB410. Any advice?

    ::prepares for onslaught of cab stacking hate::
     
  2. jlepre

    jlepre Supporting Member

    Nov 12, 2007
    Parsippany, NJ
    I didn't see anywhere that the Bugera was stable down to 2 ohms, so I''l assume that it's a 4 ohm min load head. If this is the case unless both of these cabs are 8 ohms, then you won't be able to run them together safely. If they are BOTH 8 ohm cabs then they could safely be run together, but what this combo will SOUND like is a complete crap shoot. JMHO

    EDIT: After further review, the Behringer 410 is 4 ohms, so unless the new head is stable to 2 ohms, you CAN'T run these 2 cabs together.
     
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  3. Brad Johnson

    Brad Johnson Supporting Member

    Mar 8, 2000
    Gaithersburg, Md
    Yep. The Bugera is rated at 4 ohm minimum so as long as each cab is at least 8 ohms at least that part of it is safe. No telling what it will sound like until you actually try it... if it's safe to do so.

    The Veyron M is fairly robust and may push either of your cabs, IF THEY ARE 4 ohms, pretty loud. It may push them as loud as you need if they are 8. In that case you could possibly use just one cab.
     
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  4. canteenboy

    canteenboy

    Jan 30, 2007
    Oh damn. So I guess that won't work. Both these cabs are 4 ohm. I figured since the head was 4ohm, i was good to go. I've never stacked before. What head would be a good fit of these cabs for around $450 new? The Bugera seemed pretty solid because it was 430 for 2000 watts.
     
  5. lz4005

    lz4005

    Oct 22, 2013
    Anything that is 2 ohm stable will work. Look around and see which ones have the other features you are looking for.
     
  6. canteenboy

    canteenboy

    Jan 30, 2007
    Damn. The price was right with that Bugera. Can't find anything over 1400 watts for under 500 at 2ohm.
     
  7. jlepre

    jlepre Supporting Member

    Nov 12, 2007
    Parsippany, NJ
    Don't be enamored with Bugera's claim of 2000 watts. In the real world their 2000 is more like 800 REAL watts.
     
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  8. canteenboy

    canteenboy

    Jan 30, 2007
    I definitely got a wattage boner for that price the sunn 1200 looks doable if I save up and buy used.
     
  9. jlepre

    jlepre Supporting Member

    Nov 12, 2007
    Parsippany, NJ
    Look for a Mesa D-800 used.
     
  10. CL400Peavey

    CL400Peavey Supporting Member

    Nov 7, 2011
    Grand Rapids Michigan
    Lots of power amps out there....
     
  11. okcrum

    okcrum in your chest Supporting Member

    Oct 5, 2009
    Verde Valley, AZ
    RIP Dark Horse strings
    Buy a pair of used micro heads and slave one to the other.

    There aren't many 2 ohm capable amps new for $450. Carvin seems to have the best selection in that price range. Check out the BX amps.
     
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  12. phillybass101

    phillybass101 Supporting Member

    Jan 12, 2011
    Artist, Trickfish Amplification Bartolini Emerging Artist, MTD Kingston Emerging Artist. Artist, Tsunami Cables
    Carvin Dude!!!
     
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  13. canteenboy

    canteenboy

    Jan 30, 2007
    I'm looking at the Carvin b1500
     
  14. seamonkey

    seamonkey

    Aug 6, 2004
    Just hook up the top cabinet only.
    The bottom cabinet is just a pedestal. Just for show.
     
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  15. InhumanResource

    InhumanResource

    Dec 28, 2012
    What could you possibly need that much juice for and can the single 18 survive it??
     
  16. canteenboy

    canteenboy

    Jan 30, 2007
    The peavy 1810 has had the bottom speaker replaced for a better quality speaker. It's 800 watts now. The Behringer is 1200 watts. Both run at 4ohm.
     
  17. alaskaleftybass

    alaskaleftybass Will Hanbury, Jr. Supporting Member

    Mar 21, 2012
    Sitka, Alaska
    Here's a workaround. If you're using for gigs and can save the earnings then buy the Bugera and eventually use your earnings to convert both cabs to 8 ohms. In the meantime use only one cab.

    On a different note please beware of the Bugera trolls. They'll come around and bash on your choice. Bugera is as dependable as any other Class D nowadays.
     
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  18. Raf Seibert

    Raf Seibert

    Dec 16, 2013
    Texas
    I would be very surprized if you could actually use 1400 W RMS through those cabinets. Further, I'd be amazed if you weren't asked to leave town for trying it. On the other hand, that Bugera amp has no chance of delivering anything like that power.

    You would do well to learn a little about electronics, power, Ohm's Law and other relevant bits of math. There really is some solid science involved, but, unfortunately, there are folks in the marketing departments of some musical instrument companies, who will do their best to add confusion and murkiness where none need exist. Caveat Emptor really applies in buying amps.

    Raf
     
  19. InhumanResource

    InhumanResource

    Dec 28, 2012
    Nice! That's still a phenomenal amount of juice though
     
  20. Plucky The Bassist

    Plucky The Bassist Bassist for Michael "Epic Mic" Rowe

    Jul 30, 2010
    Houston, TX
    Yeah the 2k wattage rating is optimistic lol
     
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