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Is the G30/G50 minimum distance a problem?

Discussion in 'Effects [BG]' started by FretNoMore, Jul 17, 2013.

  1. Jul 17, 2013 #1
    FretNoMore

    FretNoMore * Cooking with GAS *

    Jan 25, 2002
    The frozen north
    For you G30/G50 users, how problematic, if at all, is the rather large minimum distance Line6 states for these wireless units? I often go back to stand or sit close to my pedal board for stomping on it, or for adjustments on the PA mixer nearby, and it would suck if this causes dropouts.
     
  2. Jul 17, 2013 #2
    SoLongJake

    SoLongJake Supporting Member

    Jul 1, 2007
    Des Moines, Iowa
    I've been using my g50 since it came out and this is the first I've heard of a minimum distance. If there is one it's less than the distance from my feet to my waist. I can stand on top of the receiver and still have it work.
     
  3. Jul 17, 2013 #3
    FretNoMore

    FretNoMore * Cooking with GAS *

    Jan 25, 2002
    The frozen north
    I read somewhere Line6 recommends 10 feet minimum between transmitter and receiver, but that of course sounds completely impractical.

    I've seen some reports of dropouts, but I guess it would have been discussed more if it was a real problem. Just wanted to throw the question out there and check before buying.
     
  4. Jul 17, 2013 #4
    claudel

    claudel Supporting Member

    Oct 10, 2005
    Further Outside Area 51
    G55 manual recommends at least 6 feet to avoid "near/far" issues...

    Not sure how that applies to earlier ones.

    From the manual:

    minimizinG neaR / faR tRansmitteR effects
    Line 6 digital wireless systems are designed so that a receiver only passes audio from a transmitter that is set to the same channel. While other nearby transmitters and RF sources will not create audio in a receiver not on their channel, under certain conditions they can have an effect on range. When you are using several channels of wireless, following some simple procedures will minimize any near / far effects.

    The Relay G55 receiver constantly monitors the signal from its transmitter, and increases gain (sensitivity) as the transmitter moves farther away to maintain a good RF signal level. The near / far effect can happen when the transmitter is at a distance from the receiver’s antennas, and transmitters on different channels are being used near the antennas. The strong signal from the nearby transmitters, especially if they are close in frequency to the channel the receiver is set on, can mask the signal from the distant transmitter – and sometimes cause the audio from that transmitter to drop out.

    For example, if the transmitter on the same channel as the receiver is 50 feet away, and another transmitter is 3 feet from the receiver’s antenna, the range of that distant transmitter might be affected. Avoid this potential problem by positioning the receivers and their antennas at a more equal distance from the transmitters that are in use.

    Solutions include:
    • Making sure that any transmitter is at least 6 feet away from the receivers, and that other RF sources (such as WiFi routers) are also at a distance from them.
    • Placing the antennas higher, which can lessen the difference in distance as well as increase line-of-sight with the distant transmitter.
    • Using remote antennas (with the XD-AD8 antenna distribution system) and placing them approximately equidistant from each group of transmitters (for example, positioning a remote antenna connected to Antenna A nearer to the closer transmitters, and one connected to Antenna B nearer to the distant transmitters).
    • Moving the receiver associated with the distant transmitter closer to it.
     
  5. Jul 17, 2013 #5
    Floyd Eye

    Floyd Eye Inactive

    Feb 21, 2010
    St. Louis
    Generally ( when I have to sing) I am within 5 feet of my board. Never had an issue. (G50)
     
  6. Jul 17, 2013 #6
    jaywa

    jaywa

    May 5, 2008
    Iowa City, IA
    3 years plus with the same G30 setup and never an issue at any distance near or far.

    We play some pretty small stages (and my bandmates are space hogs) so I am routinely within 6 feet or less of my receiver and have never had a problem.
     
  7. Jul 17, 2013 #7
    FretNoMore

    FretNoMore * Cooking with GAS *

    Jan 25, 2002
    The frozen north
    That looks more like you could interrupt someone else's sound by being too close to their receiver. Which would make more sense to me than having a problem with being too close to your own receiver. Maybe this has been misunderstood and caused the discussions about minimum distance.
     
  8. Jul 17, 2013 #8
    claudel

    claudel Supporting Member

    Oct 10, 2005
    Further Outside Area 51
    Well, two transmitters set to the same frequency is a bad idea, anyway. It makes sense that that would confuse the receiver with the stronger signal dominating.

    I also get the impression that WiFi can interfere with the signals. I use my G55 with the receiver about 10 feet from where my wireless router sits and havent noticed any problems.