Is the owner of the PA really the leader?

Discussion in 'Band Management [BG]' started by NickInMesa, Jul 12, 2013.

  1. I am thinking more and more about restarting my own project.

    My last project was hijacked 3 years ago by the guitar player who got into a d*** contest with me and bought a much better PA than mine, then had us practice at his house and finally managed to piss me off until I quit (the band folded less than one month after I left when they failed to find a bass player).

    I currently have little gear and am thinking about seriously investing into gear including a Bose L1.

    My idea is to create a band which can travel easily and setup very quickly, which would also mean using electronic drums.

    I have a good idea for a project and this time I really want to find the right people.

    Thanks for the input, help, motivation!
  2. Double E

    Double E I ain't got no time to play... Gold Supporting Member

    Dec 24, 2005
    Cleveland, OH
    Pretty much...yeah.
  3. Ukiah Bass

    Ukiah Bass

    May 10, 2006
    I would say having a nice PA like the Bose is a great way to grab de facto power. Forces the band to practice at your place, which if that's OK with you, is convenient and puts them on your turf. If you're sculpting the concept for this project and recruiting the players, it sounds like a slam dunk to me.
  4. hdracer


    Feb 15, 2009
    Elk River, MN.
    It sure makes finding new members for the band easier.
  5. Floyd Eye

    Floyd Eye Inactive

    Feb 21, 2010
    St. Louis
    Bose L1 is a great PA system?

    We would trash that thing in one practice.

    I don't know that I think owning a PA makes anyone a band leader, but I sure wouldn't discourage anyone from investing in a good sound system.
  6. FretNoMore

    FretNoMore * Cooking with GAS *

    Jan 25, 2002
    The frozen north
    "Is the owner of the PA really the leader?"

    No, I can't see how that would be connected, to me s/he is just the owner of a PA.
  7. Double E

    Double E I ain't got no time to play... Gold Supporting Member

    Dec 24, 2005
    Cleveland, OH
    The Bose L1 is an nice pa for an acoustic ensemble that plays wineries and coffee houses. Mix in a drum kit with a couple toms and so much as a Fender Twin electric guitar amp and you better keep the warranty handy.
  8. If you don't have the skills to be the band leader, you're not going to find them in the PA.
  9. Zooberwerx

    Zooberwerx Gold Supporting Member

    Dec 21, 2002
    Virginia Beach, VA

    The real musical talent in the band is Tim and Ken (vocalists and guitarists). OTOH, I have more of a technical background and the funds to support the project. I figured my job is to make them sound good. Makes for a great partnership lasting the past 7 years.

  10. The band leader is the band leader. If some upstart uses PA ownership to wrestle away the leadership then the leader wasn't really up to it.
  11. Bassist4Eris

    Bassist4Eris Frat-Pack Sympathizer

    PA has nothing to do with it. It's leverage, but it's not leadership. If you're going to be the leader, you're going to have to do at least one of these two things: inspire them to follow you, or pay them to follow you.
  12. jmattbassplaya

    jmattbassplaya Supporting Member

    Jan 13, 2008
    Not necessarily. The band leader can be anyone in the band.
  13. Go hard with your new band!
  14. The BL owns the name/bookings and calls the shots and pays the band members - so before you invest in PA gear, focus on where you’re going to work. With that said, if you really want easy travel and quick setup - look into IEM (In Ear Monitoring).

    EDIT: Oops, yeah and if you need more help with PA gear checkout the "Live Sound" forum.

    Anyway - the BL owns the business (books) (or is hired by someone who does). ;)
  15. two fingers

    two fingers Opinionated blowhard. But not mad about it. Inactive

    Feb 7, 2005
    Eastern NC USA
    You are the band leader if you put together a band and hire musicians. PA (relatively speaking) has little to do with it.
  16. skwee


    Apr 2, 2010
    Certainly not. At least not when I'm hiring someone and their P.A. for my gig.
  17. Munjibunga

    Munjibunga Retired Member

    May 6, 2000
    San Diego (when not at Groom Lake)
    Independent Contractor to Bass San Diego
    No. You're the owner.
  18. nojj

    nojj Guest

    May 20, 2013
    Good luck finding a drummer who will be willing much less enjoy playing Edrums.
    You'll need a pretty healthy PA to put an eKit into the mix, and a decent set of monitors.
    (and yes I do own an eKit, it's down here gathering dust next to the acoustic set)

    Having somebody being the BL because they own the PA sounds like the kid that says "I'm the pitcher or I take my ball and go home."
  19. guy n. cognito

    guy n. cognito Secret Agent Member

    Dec 28, 2005
    Nashville, TN
    Owning a PA doesn't make on the band leader. It's my experience, however, that the member who understands the needs of the band and is willing to invest substantially in it's future is usually the one that buys the pa and is usually the leader.
  20. powmetalbassist

    powmetalbassist Supporting Member

    +1 yeah and in my experience 90% of the time that person is a bassist.