i mean, other than simply for the sake of owning vintage? i'm a vintage type of guy. i like old things, but i wont always buy vintage just for the sake of buying vintage. see, i've been doing my research and on and on and as it turns out, every bass that i like listening to winds up being a 40's or 50's Kay. thing is, they're a little out of my price range ready to play and the ones that are in my price range are beat to hell and would be out of range to fix. i've been looking into buying a new EG9 from fretwell, but i came across a potential deal on what appears to be an early 40's Kay M1 Hawes. in looking at fretwell's site, the avg price for a similar is about 3500 RTP. this guy wants SIGNIFICANTLY less so here's where some experience feedback would be helpful... i deal in classic and vintage cars. i know a good deal when i see it and i know that sometimes you come across a screamer of a deal no matter what its going to cost to get it up to snuff. even if you could just go out and find one done. i'm sure that to a certain degree, that would apply to basses as well. so if i found a 32 ford roadster, 10k would be an irresistable deal in any condition...but 30k would be condition critical.... we've just been talking via phone and email at this point, and it really does not seem that the guy has any idea what he has. from the outset it looks like a decent unit. not beat up, original tuners, etc. might need the finger board reset, still waiting on some more detail pictures and a little further conversation. the guy is 5 hours away and i cant get there til the weekend. i would have to overnight him a deposit and got get it saturday. at what price point do you just buy, knowing that at the least you can flip it for a return on investment or at least not go upside down on making a decent instrument out of it? long winded way to ask a simple question eh? seriously though, thanks for any feedback.