Hey guys, I have the opportunity to buy a used but in good condition Aguilar Tone Hammer 350 and a cream Aguilar Sl112 cab together for $900. Should I jump on it, or is this deal nothing special? thanks!
Nothing special. I think the seller is about $150 high. Have you seen the gear? I think you're only a few hundred away from new with a factory warranty at his asking price.
Hmm, new the Aguilar tonehammer 350 is $579 and a new SL112 is $800, which comes to $1379. So about a $500 savings. I agree though, I guess it isn't anything special.. just figured Id ask! Appreciate your response!
Just another opinion and we all know what they’re like . I’m not crazy about Aguilar amp/cab tone. I’ve heard several good players use them live and was frankly disappointed. I had high expectations. A buddy has a set of pickups (p/j) and they sound great . No knock on the company just an observation. I’ve never personally played through an Aguilar rig so the live thing could of been the player’s fault.
TBH they don't have much top-end, so not if you're looking for a Modern sound. The Drive knob actually rolls off the top-end, on purpose!
I agree. Their cabs are a love/hate thing. I will say that my GS112s and DB210 sound/sounded great with my LittleMark3 amp which is inherently brighter. I had DB112s and didn't like them with the Tonehammer. I do like the Tonehammer with the GS cabs. All IMHO.
I had a G-K amp here, the Fusion one (with tubes) & it sounded awful on my flat-response Markbass cabinet. Took it in to Sam-Ash to trade for a Quilter & the dude plugged it into an Aguilar cabinet that was SCOOPED, sounded great, LOL!
Mud City IMO. Struggled to get a bedroom home from the ones I have tried, wouldn't bother in a mix if I could help it.
Sounds like a good deal to me. There aren't a ton on the used market right now and none I've found listed are any lower. The cream cabs looks super cool IMO, so if you're looking for an Aguilar rig it seems like a solid (but not killer) deal.
Those Aggie cabs, like most Aggie cabs, are priced very high new. I find it tough to justify $900 for a single 12”. That said, Aguilar makes awesome sounding cabs. I have a couple DB cabs. Personally, I’d spend a bit extra on a TH500 over the 350. Depends what you need it for - but the extra wattage and features gives you more flexibility in the future. If you add a second cab in the future, you’d want another identical one - which could prove costly. I’d also consider an AG700 or even the older AG500 heads. Lots of choices out there. Good luck!
I’ve owned every model and they do have the darker Aguilar tone baked in. You really need to over adjust the tone controls to get what you are looking for, that said I think the asking price for head and cab are slightly high.
I loved my DB112s. The sound was great in a mix. Sat just right. And they recorded well, too! Moving them around was a little awkward. If you play on smaller stages, or near to walls, the deep shape of the DB112/SL112 isn’t ideal, and the tone really suffers when you put them close to the wall. Nice gear but it has its limitations. The Tonehammer heads all sound really nice but they sound a little shouty when pushed. But still totally useable and totally reliable in my few years of ownership. Price seems about right but for the peace of mind waiting a while for sone post corona deals may be wise?
Nothing special at all. Nice, but like someone else already said, you could almost get that set up new for that price
Price is steep but if you can negotiate the seller down I’d jump all over it. Aguilar is a great company and I love the tone hammer and sl cabs.
It'll be pretty but, it ain't cheap. ... I found a 350 for $300 and a gs12" for $250. ... So there are better deals around.
That “deal” is definitely nothing special! Last year a bought a Tone Hammer 500 and a pair of SL 112’s with Tuki covers and Speakon connectors, all in mint condition with original boxes and paperwork, for $1,350.
The whole aspect that the TH doesn't sound great as a "bedroom tone" is the same reason it shines in a mix. It's a mid focused amp and majority of people hate mids when playing/practicing on their own. But that's exactly what punches through in a dense live mix. It takes some time to learn how the controls interact which are anything with each other. The controls are not the easiest and most intuitive thing to figure out but once you do a whole new amp opens up. It's essentially like learning a new tone stack because it's interactive. I absolutely loathed the TH500 that was backlined at our rehearsal space and couldn't understand why people raved about them. Then I found out from some TB'ers how the Gain/Master/Drive controls work and play off each other...which is anything but a normal or how one commonly thinks of gain/master set up. Drive knob essentially becomes a tone knob when you know how to use the gain and master and doesn't really get into gritty over driven territory until you start to push the gain past noon or the drive past 3. Ton of sounds in the amp but the one thing it doesn't do is treble...and as mentioned before that's by design. If you want modern/hi-fi...don't get a TH. Absolutely kills for vintage tone. TH500 lacks headroom in my opinion and is it's only shortcoming. The TH350 would be a great all around practice and smaller/quiet gig amp. The TH700 has plenty of clean head room and I run it with either my Berg NV212 or the DB212. Not a hint of mud. Strong low end, rich mids, and tame top end. EDIT* After looking around that looks like a pretty reasonable or good deal. I didn't realize how pricey the SL112's were and seem to hold their value. Didn't see any used for under $600 and the cheapest TH350 I saw was $400.
When you are talking about used gear pricing, retail pricing is essentially irrelevant to whether it is a good deal. Market value for comparable used gear is the relevant benchmark. It may seem like $700 is a good deal on a used ‘Model X‘ bass if you focus on the fact that it costs $1,150 new and think of it as “saving” $450, but the reality is that no matter what the price tag is for a new one, $700 is not a good deal if used Model X basses in similar condition can be had for $500.
In my opinion $900 is just a touch more than a normal used price. The only things that would tip me in the direction of taking that deal would be if bags/covers were included and if you really like cream for the cab. I’ve purchased two black SL112s mint/excellent condition at $500 a piece with covers and kept an eye on what they go for and it’s been close to that or about $550 with covers. I got a used TH-500 mint/excellent condition with bag for $500, I’ve seen the TH-350s going for $350-$400 used. Long story short, $900 isn’t a great deal but it might work if the cab and head come with a case and bag, or if you REALLY want cream for the cab, or if you can negotiate the price down a bit. Also, a second SL112 adds a lot to the rig, if you go with it I would suggest planning to expand.